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Krisan Marotta: Welcome to the
Wednesday in the Word podcast.
I'm Krisan Marotta, and this is
my podcast about what the Bible
means and how we know.
Thanks so much for listening.
Today is the 16th talk in my
series on the Gospel of John,
and we will be studying John
chapter 8, verses 11 through 47.
In this season of the podcast,
we have been focusing on the big
picture John is painting in his
Gospel.
Instead of going through the
details of each verse like we
normally do, we have been
looking at the overarching
themes in the Gospel.
This is a kind of study I've
wanted to podcast through for a
long time because sometimes we
get so caught up in the details
of marking up a verse and
highlighting and color-coding
things that we forget to go back
and put it all together to look
at the picture that all those
details are painting.
In this study, I've been trying
to model that step for you of
taking a look back and looking
at the overarching themes and
the way the flow of thought is
coming together.
Now, as we've seen, John has
been arguing that eternal life
comes to those who believe that
Jesus is the Christ.
And as he argues that point, he
has been exploring issues
surrounding belief.
So we've looked at the
importance of evidence.
We've looked at the evidence
that Jesus is the Christ.
We've looked at the importance
and veracity of testimony and
the different types of
testimony.
And we have talked about the
dynamics of belief and unbelief
and how making a claim to belief
after being impressed by a
miracle is not significant.
You have to persevere.
Now last week we looked at the
story of the woman caught in
adultery.
As I explained in that podcast,
that story was not in the
original text of the Gospel of
John, but was most likely added
later.
While it doesn't seem to belong
at this point in the Gospel,
there is widespread consensus
that the story is authentic and
apostolic, and so we looked at
it to ask what we could learn
from it, but also noted how it
doesn't seem to fit the flow of
John's Gospel.
Today we're going to pick back
up with chapter 8, verse 12.
Chapter 7 ends with Jesus
giving this great call.
If anyone is thirsty, let him
come to Jesus and drink.
And then John gave us a variety
of responses to what Jesus
said.
We saw the condescending
disbelief of his brothers and
the hostility of the Jewish
leadership.
We saw just about every kind of
response you could have in the
crowd: interest, confusion,
hostility, and belief.
The crowd marvels at his
teaching, and the guards become
so distracted they forget to
arrest him.
And then we see the continuing
interest of Nicodemus in
standing up for Jesus.
John explored this theme that
belief is related to our will.
We believe what we want to
believe.
The Pharisees refused to
believe, despite the evidence
literally staring them in the
face.
Their legalism was just too
much of a stumbling block for
them.
They weren't willing to risk
losing the approval of men, so
they refused to believe Jesus.
They weren't willing to admit
that they had a problem with
sin, so Jesus was not the kind
of Messiah they wanted.
John added this idea in that
section that if you're not
willing to submit your will to
God's will, you will reject
Jesus.
You must want the right things
for Jesus to be somebody you
want to believe in.
Chapter 8, verse 12 picks up
right after that with another I
am statement of Jesus, and the
flow of thought makes sense.
In other words, if you leave
out the story of the woman
caught in adultery, there is no
gap or interruption in the flow
of thought.
First Jesus claimed to be the
source of living water, and we
saw responses to that.
Now he claims to be the light
of the world, and again John is
most interested in how people
respond.
Let's start with 812.
Again Jesus spoke to them,
saying, I am the light of the
world.
Whoever follows me will not
walk in darkness, but will have
the light of life.
Now many scholars think Jesus
is still at the Feast of
Tabernacles when he made this
statement.
That feast lasted seven or
eight days, and it included
several different ceremonies.
One of the ceremonies involved
pouring out water, and many
people think he took that
occasion to say, I am the living
water.
Another one of the ceremonies
involved lighting lamps, and
it's possible that he is now
saying at the occasion of those
lamps being lit that he is the
light of the world.
It seems likely that Jesus is
building on the imagery of this
festival when he makes these
statements, but John doesn't
tell us that directly.
The image of being the light of
the world is a powerful one.
It's fairly easy to understand.
When the darkness comes, you
can't see.
You stumble over things you
didn't know were there.
You get lost because you can't
see the landmarks you're
familiar with.
You can walk off a cliff in the
dark because you can't see it
coming.
When we're lost in the dark at
night, what we most want is
somebody to come along with a
light.
And that's the image that Jesus
is drawing on here.
In his analogy, we human beings
are stumbling around in the
darkness, and our metaphorical
darkness is ignorance and lies.
We lack knowledge, we lack
understanding, we believe lies
instead of believing the truth.
We don't see reality the way it
really is.
We think we understand it, but
we're actually clueless.
One of the things Jesus came to
do is to bring the light of
truth to that darkness.
He came to teach us what is
true so that we would know and
understand, and he came to bring
the light of life, the
understanding that leads to
eternal life.
Now in John's gospel, we've
seen Jesus building this picture
of his work a little bit at a
time.
He's the Messiah, He is the one
in whom we must believe.
He came to bring life by
offering his own body on the
cross to buy us forgiveness from
God.
Here he's emphasizing that he
is the prophet who brings the
light of understanding to the
world.
I'm going to go ahead and read
chapter eight verses twelve
through thirty.
Again Jesus spoke to them
saying, I am the light of the
world, whoever follows me will
not walk in darkness, but will
have the light of life.
So the Pharisees said to him,
You are bearing witness about
yourself, your testimony is not
true.
Jesus answered, Even if I do
bear witness about myself, my
testimony is true, for I know
where I came from and where I am
going, but you do not know
where I am coming from or where
I am going.
You judge according to the
flesh, I judge no one.
Yet even if I do judge, my
judgment is true, for it is not
I alone who judge, but I and the
Father who sent me.
In your law it is written that
the testimony of two people is
true.
I am the one who bears witness
about myself, and the Father who
sent me bears witness about me.
They said to him, therefore,
Where is your father?
Jesus answered, You know
neither me nor my father, if you
knew me you would know my
father also.
These words he spoke in the
treasury as he taught in the
temple, but no one arrested him
because his hour had not yet
come.
So he said to them again, I am
going away and you will sink me
and you will die in your sin.
Where I am going you cannot
come.
So the Jews said, Will he kill
himself?
Since he says where I am going
you cannot come?
He said to them, You are from
below, I am from above, you are
of this world, I am not of this
world.
I told you that you would die
in your sins, for unless you
believe that I am he, you will
die in your sins.
So they said to him, Who are
you?
Jesus said to them, Just what I
have been telling you from the
beginning.
I have much to say about you
and much to judge, but he who
sent me is true, and I declare
to the world what I have heard
from him.
They did not understand that he
had been speaking to them about
the Father.
So Jesus said to them, When you
have lifted up the Son of Man,
then you will know that I am he,
and that I do nothing on my own
authority, but speak just as
the Father taught me, and he who
sent me is with me.
He has not left me alone, for I
always do the things that are
pleasing to him.
As he was saying these things,
many believed in him.
Now there are several themes in
this section that we have seen
before in John.
There is a whole lot we could
talk about, but I am going to
stick to my purpose of staying
with the big picture.
First, there is this question
of what is at stake.
Why does it matter whether we
believe in Jesus or not?
And in this case, it matters
because he is the bringer of
light.
Jesus tells the Pharisees,
unless you believe in me, you
will die in your sins.
Dying in your sins is a
terrible thing.
It is the worst thing that
could ever happen to you.
As Jesus made clear, we are all
guilty before God.
We human beings are inherently
selfish by nature.
We love ourselves more than we
love God and our neighbors, and
one day we will die and face the
judgment seat of God and he
will find us guilty.
To die in your sins means to
die without dealing with the
problem of your guilt.
Your sins remain when you stand
before your Creator.
The penalty for your crime has
not been paid, you are guilty
and you will reap what you sow.
And Jesus says in the section,
if you reject me, that is your
fate, and that is a central
theme of his message.
We've seen this theme before.
And we have also seen this
theme frequently in John.
The Pharisees raise this
interesting question.
Well, Jesus, you say you're the
light of the world, and that
sounds great and all, but you're
talking about yourself.
Anybody can go around and say,
hey, I'm a big deal, but that
doesn't mean you are really a
big deal.
Why should we listen to what
you have to say?
And Jesus gives them an answer
that he's given them before.
He says, Even if I'm the only
one testifying, my testimony is
true.
But I'm not the only one
testifying.
God my Father also testifies to
who I am.
God testifies that Jesus is the
Messiah through the miracles
that Jesus does.
They are signs that God is with
Jesus, and God performs
miracles through Jesus to verify
and testify Jesus is the
Messiah.
Further, God spoke in Scripture
and the scriptures testify to
the nature of the Messiah, and
they all point to Jesus as the
Messiah.
And then finally, occasionally
we have a voice from heaven
where God audibly says, This is
my son, listen to him.
So that's the kind of testimony
Jesus is talking about.
He says, I am telling you about
myself, but I'm not the only
one.
My Father, God, testifies that
I am the Messiah.
And then he gives them another
reason they can trust him, but
that reason is something that
hasn't happened yet.
He refers to his crucifixion
and resurrection.
So he predicts a future event
that will establish he is who he
says he is.
Let me read 828 again.
So Jesus said to them, When you
have lifted up the Son of Man,
then you will know that I am he,
and that I do nothing on my own
authority but speak just as the
Father taught me.
Jesus talks about being lifted
up several times in the Gospel
of John.
Later in chapter twelve, John
immediately explains that Jesus
uses this phrase to talk about
the way he was going to die.
I think the context and
evidence suggests that whenever
Jesus uses this phrase, he's
talking about his death.
His point here is when they
finally do succeed in killing
him, God will raise Jesus from
the dead.
And on that day, they will see
the ultimate vindication of his
ministry.
God will definitively testify
that Jesus is the Messiah
through the resurrection.
So they think that by getting
Jesus arrested and executed,
they are going to prove he is a
fake, but the very event they
think is going to stop him will
end up being his vindication.
I think he's talking about the
same thing in verse 21 with the
language about where I am going,
you cannot come.
They're seeking to arrest him,
and his response is, I'm going
where you can't come.
And the irony is his arrest and
execution is the very means
that he ends up triumphing over
them.
They think they finally beat
him, they think he is silenced
and soon to be forgotten, but
God raises him from the dead and
elevates him to sit at the
right hand of the Father.
That's where he's going that
they can't follow.
He's pointing to the
resurrection as his ultimate
vindication.
So why should we believe that
Jesus is the light of the world?
Because God has testified in
many ways that Jesus is the
Messiah, and because they will
soon see the ultimate sign, his
death and resurrection.
Now, again, there's a lot more
we could talk about in how Jesus
argues with them in the back
and forth, but I want to stick
to the big picture, so we're
going to move on.
In verse 30, we again encounter
this huge theme of belief.
As he was saying these things,
many believed in him.
Jesus declares himself to be
the light of the world.
He says he's come from God, and
many Jews among the crowd hear
and believe.
But the story goes on.
Let's look at 30 through 36.
As he was saying these things,
many believed in him.
So Jesus said to the Jews who
had believed him, If you abide
in my word, you are truly my
disciples, and you will know the
truth, and the truth will set
you free.
They answered him, We are
offspring of Abraham and have
never been enslaved to anyone.
How is it that you say you will
become free?
Jesus answered them, Truly,
truly I say to you, everyone who
practices sin is a slave to
sin.
The slave does not remain in
the house forever, the son
remains forever, so if the sun
sets you free, you are free
indeed.
Okay, what's going on in this
section?
If we're honest with ourselves,
we realize we are slaves to a
brutal master, and that master
is our own sin.
We cannot free ourselves from
it no matter how much we'd like
to or how hard we try.
But Jesus makes this great
promise become my disciples,
learn the truth from me, and I
will break the chains of your
slavery.
I will free you from your
slavery to sin.
You can't free yourselves, but
I can do it for you.
If the Son sets you free,
you're free indeed.
But as we have been noticing in
John, belief is not such a
straightforward, simple matter.
A warning always comes with
belief.
As we've seen, it's not enough
to make a one-time claim to
believe because you've been
impressed with a miracle or
something.
We have to keep believing.
Jesus says, if you remain in my
word, you are truly my
disciples.
You have to persevere, stay the
course.
You have to keep following me
without giving up.
When he starts teaching them
more about the plans and
purposes of God, will they
continue to believe him?
What are they going to do when
they find out, you know what,
life is hard and it's going to
keep being hard?
How will they react when they
discover loving God and loving
your neighbor involves service
and sacrifice?
What if they don't like the
lessons he teaches them?
It's not enough to hear and
claim to believe.
Faith requires remaining as his
disciple and accepting the
truth from him, even if that
truth is hard to hear.
And we can see this process
begins almost immediately.
John says many believed, and
Jesus gives them their first
lesson.
Lesson number one, you are not
free, and you need me to make
you free.
Now today we're familiar with
this passage and we know what
he's talking about, but this was
not so obvious to his audience
at the time.
They don't quite get it, and
they balk at his words.
They respond to him and they
say, You're you're talking to us
like we're slaves, but we're
not slaves.
We're the children of Abraham.
We are the chosen people of
God.
How can you free us when we
don't need to be free?
Saying that they are slaves is
offensive to them.
They're confused, and that
means they have a choice.
Will these words be a stumbling
block to them?
Or will they continue to listen
and believe?
They believe Jesus, but then
with the next thing out of his
mouth, they're saying, Hey, wait
a minute.
What what are you talking
about?
I don't think that's true.
Jesus responds back to them,
Well, you're slaves all right.
You're not free.
Everyone who sins is a slave of
sin.
And Jesus uses this analogy
that's very relevant to the
situation that he's speaking to
here.
He uses the analogy of a
household.
In the typical household of the
time, everyone had to submit to
the father as head of the
house.
The eldest son, who stood to
inherit, had a unique position
because his word was like the
father's word.
If the eldest son gave an
order, it was treated as if the
head of the house had given the
order.
In the family ranking system,
other members of the family came
next, followed by the slaves at
the bottom.
Family remained family.
Family stayed in the household.
But slaves are not family.
Should they turn out to be
unsuitable, they could be
removed.
They had no guarantee that they
wouldn't be sold to someone
else.
Now the Jews talking with Jesus
from their perspective, as
children of Abraham, they are
part of God's family.
They're the chosen people of
God.
God is their father, as they're
going to say in a minute.
God's household is their
household.
They don't need freeing like
slaves because they are children
of Abraham, there is no getting
rid of them.
But Jesus tells them, The fact
is, in the household of God,
you're more like slaves than you
are like the family members.
Your slavery to sin means that
you don't belong in God's house,
only the son belongs there.
You slaves don't.
That's why it's so important
when he says, If the Son sets
you free, you shall really be
free.
If the Son took a slave and
raised that slave to the status
of brother, the slave was free
indeed.
And Jesus, as the eldest son of
the father, is going to break
our chains to sin and welcome us
as family members into the
household of God.
And that is a powerful and
wonderful image.
He's telling them being the
physical descendants of Abraham
doesn't give you the right to
assume that you belong in the
household of God.
You need to recognize your
slaves to sin and look to Jesus
for deliverance.
But he also offers this great
hope, this hope of I can make
you free, and that hope depends
on accepting the fact that we're
slaves to sin.
They have to be willing to
embrace everything Jesus
teaches, even when that means
abandoning any sense of
entitlement they might have as
children of Abraham.
To be his disciples, they must
embrace the truth that their
slavery to sin has lost them
their place in God's household,
and only the Messiah can give it
back to them.
And that's exactly what he came
to do.
Now we can see they don't like
this.
They don't like what he's
saying.
Let's go on and look at 37
through 50.
I know that you are offspring
of Abraham, yet you seek to kill
me because my words find no
place in you.
I speak Speak of what I have
seen with my father, and you do
what you have heard from your
father.
They answered him, Abraham is
our father.
Jesus said to them, If you were
Abraham's children, you would
be doing the works Abraham did,
but now you seek to kill me, a
man who has told you the truth
that I heard from God.
That is not what Abraham did.
You are doing the works your
father did.
They said to him, We were not
born of sexual immorality, we
have one father, even God.
Jesus said to them, If God were
your father, you would love me,
for I came from God and I am
here.
I came not of my own accord,
but he sent me.
Why do you not understand what
I say?
It is because you cannot bear
to hear my word.
You are of your father the
devil, and your will is to do
your father's desires.
He was a murderer from the
beginning and does not stand in
the truth, because there is no
truth in him.
When he lies, he speaks out of
his own character, for he is a
liar and the father of lies.
But because I tell the truth,
you do not believe me.
Which one of you convicts me of
sin?
If I tell the truth, why do you
not believe me?
Whoever is of God hears the
words of God.
The reason why you do not hear
them is that you are not of God.
Now notice what's happened here
in verse 30.
Jesus started talking to Jews
who believed him, and now here
we are in verse 37, and he says,
You're trying to kill me,
you're children of the devil,
and you are not of God.
So how did we get from 30 to
37?
What's going on here?
Jesus does not accept them as
genuine believers right away.
And we've seen this earlier in
John.
Claiming to believe because you
saw a miracle doesn't mean
anything.
We saw large crowds abandon
Jesus after he talked to them
about being the bread of life.
And we're seeing that same kind
of thing here as he talks about
being the light of the world.
We see this warning.
It's great that you claim to
believe in all, but you need to
persevere.
You need to continue accepting
and believing my teaching in
order for this belief that you
claim to have to ultimately lead
to freedom and life.
And I think that's the
fundamental purpose of this
section.
And it's a theme we have been
seeing in John and are seeing
again here.
Just because you claim to
believe doesn't mean that you're
a follower of Jesus.
You have to remain committed to
Jesus and let that belief
change your life.
Now I imagine Jesus was
speaking to a mixed group
because this is a public
setting, and some of those he
was talking to will end up
believing and persevering, but
others won't.
Now let's try to sort out what
sounds like really harsh
dialogue here.
Everything Jesus says here
relies on the idea that people
are like their parents.
Children not only look like
their parents physically, they
act and speak like their
parents.
They pick up their way of doing
things, they pick up their
mannerisms.
And many of you have had that
experience.
You've seen your own children
imitate you just as you imitated
your parents.
The Jews say God is our father
because we're children of
Abraham.
So Jesus asks them, Do you act
like your father?
Well, no, you don't.
You act like someone else.
Two aspects of their behavior
indicate that they have a
different father.
First, they don't believe the
message, and second, they're
trying to kill the messenger.
Here is a prophet from God and
they hate him.
Jesus is speaking a true
message from God and they reject
his message.
They see him as a threat and
they want to have him arrested
and executed.
Is that what Abraham did?
No.
When angelic messengers showed
up at Abraham's door, Abraham
believed them.
He did not try to kill them.
He showed them hospitality, he
listened to them.
When Abraham met the priest of
God Melchizedek, Abraham gave
him gifts.
Abraham did not try to murder
him.
Abraham believed the messages
that came from God, even when
the promises God made were
humanly impossible.
Unbelief and murder do not
characterize the children of
God, but they do characterize
someone else.
Lies and murder are the chief
characteristics of the devil.
He lied to Adam and Eve, he
inspired Cain to murder his
brother.
The whole line of Satan is
characterized by hatred and
deception.
And Jesus says, Look at your
response to me.
Who would respond to me like
you are?
Would Abraham respond like you
are, or would the devil?
Well, Abraham would welcome me,
the devil would try to kill me,
and you're acting a lot more
like the devil.
Then Jesus pushes them to
justify their response.
He says, Can you prove I've
done anything wrong?
Can you convict me of sin?
What explains why you reject me
when I have done nothing wrong
and I am clearly speaking truth
from God?
And he says, I'll tell you what
explains it.
Ultimately, your behavior is
influenced not by God, but by
Satan, the ruler of this world.
And that's a pretty strong
thing to say to someone.
But as we have been seeing in
John, belief is a gift of God.
Left to ourselves, all of us
would trot off merrily to hell.
We would reject God, we would
reject the truth, and we would
be trapped in our sins.
But God in his mercy sent both
his son to save us and offer his
life for us on the cross and
his spirit to open our eyes to
the truth so that when we are
confronted with the claims of
the gospel, we see and believe.
And this goes right back to
what we saw in chapter three
when Jesus was talking to
Nicodemus about being born
again.
Okay, to wrap up this section,
let's think some more about this
idea of freedom.
In this section, Jesus has
expanded our picture of what he
came to do.
All along, he's been saying
that eternal life will come to
the one who believes that he is
the Messiah.
He has hinted and he's getting
more bold about saying he came
to offer his own life to free us
from our guilt and
condemnation, and that we escape
condemnation and find eternal
life through the work he has
come to do as the Messiah, and
that's why we should believe
him.
But now he's added something to
the picture.
In addition to bringing us
forgiveness for sins and
reconciliation with God, he also
came to free us from the
bondage of sin.
Ultimately, we will become the
sort of people who are no longer
slaves to sin.
We're going to become people
who do not sin anymore, and we
will be truly free from sin,
death, corruption, and all the
futility that that brings.
What must we do to receive this
freedom that he's promising?
We must learn from him.
We must be his students and his
disciples.
We must embrace what he teaches
as true and persevere in being
his disciples.
When we figure out being a
Christian is tough, we hang in
there and continue to trust him
and stay with him until the end.
Now all of us know what it's
like to be in a situation where
we long to be free.
Something burdens us, something
ties us down or afflicts us,
and we just wish with every
fiber of our being that we could
escape it.
Once I had a job where I was
working for a boss who was
making my life miserable.
One morning on the way to work
I stopped at a gas station, and
on the other side of my pump a
car pulled up with three men in
it.
They were all decked out in
fishing gear with a big picnic
basket in the back seat and they
were laughing and joking.
Obviously, they weren't working
where I was working.
They were about to go spend a
beautiful sunny day outside on
the water, and I was going to
work in an office with no
windows for a boss who was out
to get me.
And I wanted the freedom they
had so badly.
Now all sorts of things in life
are like that.
We get sick and we long to be
well.
We do something terribly stupid
and we wish we could take it
back and escape the
consequences.
We make wrong financial choices
and then we have to live with
scarcity and lack.
We all recognize that feeling
of release, that lightness and
joy when it's over.
As a kid, you may remember
walking out of school on that
last day of school on the first
day of summer vacation, and you
had that sense of I'm free.
Or maybe you felt it on the day
you graduated from high school,
or you got your driver's
license or your first paycheck.
Well, the Bible teaches that
the worst form of slavery, the
heaviest burden that we bear,
the thing that we ought to most
want to be free from is our own
moral corruption.
And all of us have to come to
grips with that fact.
Now I've known for a long time
that I am my biggest problem.
Sure, sometimes my friends and
family mess up and I wish they'd
cut it out.
But fundamentally, if I'm
honest, I realize all my biggest
problems come back to me and
the choices I've made.
They exist because of the
selfish way I respond or the
selfish things that I will just
not let go of.
And once we understand the deep
and terrible consequences of
our slavery to sin, we begin to
understand why salvation is so
wonderful and why being set free
is such a big deal.
Eternal life is not just living
forever.
It's not just being forgiven of
our sins so that we can
continue to breathe.
It's actually being rescued
from our own corruption, from
futility, from sin, decay,
death, despair, bitterness,
anger, frustration, and all the
things that ruin our lives.
That's why life in the kingdom
of God will be so great, because
you and I will no longer be the
kind of people we are now.
We are not going to corrupt and
ruin our friendships and
relationships with other people.
We are going to love God the
way He deserves to be loved.
We are going to love each other
the way we all long to be
loved.
Our friendships, our
relationships are going to be
fully satisfying and joyful
because there will be no more
tears, no frustrations, and no
sorrows.
We'll be able to go to sleep at
night and leave the door
unlocked.
We will have nothing to fear.
And that's the kind of life
we're looking forward to in the
kingdom of heaven, and that's
the freedom that Jesus is
promising.
And that's why salvation is so
important.
Today we have the down payment
of the Spirit.
The Spirit matures our faith
and teaches us to understand
more fully what life is about.
The Spirit teaches us to hunger
and thirst for this kind of
freedom the way we hunger and
thirst for physical food.
When the kingdom of God comes
in its culmination, we will
receive that kind of life.
We will receive our inheritance
in full.
And fundamentally, that
inheritance is the solution to
the problem of sin.
And to me, that's the best part
of the deal.
And Jesus says here, He came to
give us that kind of freedom.
He came not only to die for us,
to reconcile us to God, he came
to free us fully and finally
from all the presence, power,
and penalty of sin and death.
And that's a huge gift.
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