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Krisan Marotta: Welcome to the
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As is sometimes the case, I
disagree with the popular or at
least the prevalent
understanding of this passage.
And is often the case, I
believe the prevalent view
results from one of two
problems.
It results from either a
cursory reading of the verses
without fully appreciating the
context, and or it results from
a view of Corinthians that the
letter is a series of unrelated
passages on a variety of topics,
and so people don't even try to
find the flow of thought.
As you know, I believe there is
a strong line of thought
connecting each section of this
letter, and I think that when
you make an effort to follow
that connection, you come up
with a better understanding of
each of the individual sections.
Now, granted these passages are
difficult, these are passages
which sincere and genuine
believers will disagree about.
There are many interpretive
decisions you have to make when
translating these texts, and
neither the vocabulary nor the
imagery is obviously
straightforward.
And if that's not enough, we're
in the middle of a
conversation.
In fact, this entire letter is
the middle of a conversation.
The Corinthians wrote to Paul
and asked him questions, and we
don't have their letter.
We only have Paul's side of the
conversation.
So we are reading his answers
to questions we don't have.
And we have to guess what those
questions were based on his
answer.
Plus, Paul received a verbal
report about the situation in
Corinth, and we don't have that
report either.
So Paul's working with a lot of
information that we don't have.
We only have Paul's side of the
conversation and we don't even
have all of his side.
Paul wrote other letters to
this church that did not
survive.
I have a blog post explaining
that, which I'll link to in the
lecture notes if you're
interested.
Even though we call this letter
First Corinthians, it's not the
first letter Paul wrote that
church.
It would be very helpful if we
had the whole conversation, but
we don't, so we have to work
with what we've got.
It's like listening to one side
of a phone conversation.
We can hear the answers, but we
have to guess what questions
they asked to elicit that
particular response.
I'm giving you my best shot at
putting all these pieces
together, but I admit I do not
have all the answers.
I don't have the last word, and
my views don't carry any weight
or authority at all.
I am just one Bible student
talking to another Bible student
saying, hey, I put some time in
on these passages, and here's
what I've learned.
And this is certainly a work in
progress.
One day we will all see
clearly, but right now we have
to take our best shot at what it
means with the evidence we've
got.
The problem in this passage is
that Paul seems to be damning
marriage with faint praise.
Paul seems to be saying, Well,
if you have to marry, I guess
it's okay.
You're not actually sinning if
you get married, but it would be
better not to get married at
all.
If that really is what he's
saying, it's kind of a lukewarm
endorsement of marriage, which
would be strange because
marriage is something God
created before the fall.
As always, first we want to
figure out what Paul is saying
to the Corinthians about
marriage, and then after
understanding that we want to
ask what does that mean for us?
And we want to place this
discussion in the flow of
thought and in the argument that
he has been making in the first
six chapters, including what we
know about the historical
situation and the problems the
Corinthian church was facing.
Chapter seven verse one begins
now concerning the things about
which you wrote.
And that signals a change in
the letter.
Paul is addressing issues which
the Corinthians raised in a
letter they wrote to him, and
it's a letter we don't have.
And this phrase now concerning
will keep popping up from here
on out in the letter.
And it signals to us that Paul
is answering a question that
they asked.
So we're entering a section
where Paul answers a series of
questions the Corinthians asked.
Up to this point, he's been
responding to issues raised by
the verbal report he received,
and now he's switching gears and
he's responding to questions
they asked him in the in a
letter.
So we see this in seven one,
now concerning the matters about
which he wrote, then in seven
twenty-five, now concerning the
betrothed, in eight one, now
concerning food offered to
idols, in twelve one, now
concerning spiritual gifts, in
sixteen one, now concerning the
collection for the saints, and
in sixteen twelve, now
concerning our brother Apollos.
So up to now, Paul's been
addressing the big issue
question of what is true wisdom,
which has led the Corinthians
to question Paul's authority as
an apostle and led to these
divisions in the church.
Up to now, some in the church
have been quite aggressive in
fighting Paul and disagreeing
with him, and there seemed to be
a group among them who had
concluded that Paul is not a
legitimate apostle and they were
not going to listen to him
anymore.
And that was the issue Paul
addressed in chapters one
through four.
Then he addressed a situation
that was going on in the church
that he must have heard through
the verbal report in beginning
in chapter five, and from here
on he's now addressing issues
that they wrote to him.
Some of the issues will be
motivated from this rejection of
Paul's teaching and some will
not.
Some of the questions seem to
come from the perspective of
legitimately wanting to know
what Paul thinks, as opposed to
coming from the perspective of
challenging his authority and
his right to speak into their
lives.
Now they seem to be asking,
isn't this what you think?
Or what do you think about
this?
And the first issue we're
looking at in 7.1 seems to me to
be a genuine question.
Paul, what would you say about
this?
They think they're in line with
him, they think they're
following his advice, and they
want to know if they've got it
right.
So what is this first issue?
In 7.1, Paul says, Now
concerning the things about
which you wrote, it is good for
a man not to touch a woman.
That's the New American
Standard Translation.
The ESV reads, it is not good
for a man to have sexual
relations with a woman.
Now we know Paul is answering a
question, a specific question
that they asked, and it makes a
lot of difference how you
understand the question.
You're going to interpret this
section coming up differently
based on what you think the
issue is that he's responding
to.
Various commentators understand
the question in various ways,
and this verse has a long
history of debate in the church.
And as I said, we have to take
our best guess because we only
have Paul's side of the
conversation.
So here's option one.
No, I Paul totally disagree
with you, and it is good for a
man not to touch a woman.
So the Corinthians are saying
something to the effect of, you
know, we have this philosophy,
if it feels good, do it.
And Paul is disagreeing and
saying, No, that's not right.
Let me correct you.
Just because it feels good does
not mean you should do it.
In fact, it is good for a man
not to touch a woman.
Option number two would be,
yes, I wholeheartedly agree with
you, Corinthians.
It is good for a man not to
touch a woman.
So the Corinthians have decided
we would all be better off if
we just stayed away from
sexuality altogether.
And Paul's saying, right,
you've got it.
That's my perspective, too.
So no, I disagree.
Yes, I agree.
And option three is well, yes
and no.
I, Paul, would agree that there
is something good about a man
not touching a woman in some
circumstances, but you have
misunderstood the point.
And that is the position I
would argue for.
I think option three is the one
that fits the best in the
context.
So I do not think the issue is,
I know you guys can't wait to
get married, but my advice is
it's much better if you just
avoid marriage altogether.
I don't think that's the
question being asked.
Rather, the question is how far
do we take this idea of purity
and chastity and sexual
morality?
And they're saying, Paul, isn't
it the case that sexuality is
just so powerful and tempting
that we should just avoid it
altogether?
We know that all things
physical are dirty and base and
unclean and that the really
enlightened will follow this
path of spirituality, and so
we've concluded that given all
that and the fact that we're so
likely to fail in this area of
sexuality, that we should just
go the ascetic route and avoid
it altogether.
That would fit with what we
know of Greek culture at the
time.
We know from history that there
was a prevalent idea in the
Greek culture that everything
physical was dirty and evil, and
that everything spiritual was
clean and good, and that the
truly enlightened, the truly
spiritual would avoid physical
altogether, and that took
various forms all the way up to
asceticism.
Given that historical belief,
it seems likely to mean that
Christians are struggling with
okay, just how far does this
idea of purity and chastity go?
Our culture tells us that the
physical is bad.
How does that square with our
new Christian belief?
Should we just avoid this
physical stuff altogether?
In a sense, I think this is the
other swing of the pendulum
from the issue he was addressing
in chapter six that it doesn't
matter what we do with our
bodies at all.
That was the issue in six.
Now I think he's saying, but
don't fall off the horse on the
other side.
Don't look, say at my life as a
single person and my call to
sexual morality and conclude
that sexuality is wrong in and
of itself in all circumstances
and to be avoided.
If my culture tells me that the
physical is evil and the spirit
is good, I can make two
mistakes.
I can conclude either it
doesn't matter what I do with my
body because my spirit is so
enlightened and pure, so I can
do whatever I want, and that's
the issue he was just addressing
in the previous chapter.
Or I can conclude that I have
to deny my body at all cost in
order to avoid sin, which is I
think the issue he's turning to
now.
And we know from history there
were these two groups.
There were the licentious, I
can do whatever I want, and then
there were the ascetics who
thought you should deny your
body every physical pleasure and
maybe even inflict pain and
punishment on it.
It makes sense that Paul would
address both sides of that
issue.
Paul is not married as he
writes this letter, but Paul was
not an ascetic.
Paul probably was married at
some point because he was a
Pharisee, and Pharisees had to
be married.
We don't know what happened to
his wife.
She may have divorced him when
he came to faith, or she may
have died, or he may have been a
rare exception and never
married at all, but we know that
he is single as he writes this
letter.
So Paul is celibate, but he's
not ascetic.
An ascetic sees it as more
spiritual to completely deny the
body all pleasures and even
inflict abuse in order to purge
your body from sin.
Paul does not follow that line.
He's going to acknowledge that
there are certain advantages to
being single, but he's drawing a
line and saying don't take this
too far.
Don't go into asceticism where
you believe the body is
inherently evil and all physical
pleasures must be avoided.
So I think he's giving them a
balanced response.
He's going to say yes, celibacy
is good.
There are times when there are
good reasons to remain celibate,
but marriage is good, and
sometimes there are times to get
married.
Marriage is a good thing, and
sexuality has its appropriate
place in marriage.
So the way I put the context
together in Paul's flow of
thought, I think that Paul is
responding to an idea they have.
Their idea is it is good for a
man not to have sexual relations
with a woman.
And he's going to respond to
that and say, let's sort that
out, and that that theme is what
runs through the whole chapter.
And he's giving a balanced
response of there is a time and
place for everything.
Under some circumstances, it's
good for a man not to touch a
woman, but under other
circumstances it is not good.
And the rest of the chapter is
going to sort that out.
When is it true?
When is it not true?
And how should that affect our
decisions?
And Paul's going to address
that question in a number of
situations.
And we're going to look at the
first one today.
But it's not the only situation
or circumstance he's going to
address.
We're going to see a number of
different circumstances as we go
through the chapter, and it's
helpful to remember that the
question is, when is it good for
a man not to touch a woman and
when is it okay?
So here's the first issue.
This is first Corinthians
chapter seven verses one and
two, and I'm reading the New
American Standard Version.
Now concerning the things about
which you wrote, it is good for
a man not to touch a woman, but
because of immoralities, each
man is to have his own wife and
each woman is to have her own
husband.
Well, right off the bat we face
our first real interpretive
decision.
It sounds like Paul is saying
celibacy is best, but I know you
can't handle celibacy, so you'd
better just go ahead and get
married so you don't fall into
too much sin.
And that is a common or at
least prevalent popular
understanding of seven two.
Singleness is preferable, but
for those of you who are so weak
willed that you can't handle
singleness, you'd better get
married.
That is a possible and a valid
interpretation, but it is not
the one that persuades me.
This phrase each man should
have his own wife and each woman
her own husband.
Okay, what does that mean?
The phrase could mean let each
person get married, let each man
and woman find someone and get
married.
And that would be a strange way
to start the section because in
just a few verses he's gonna
argue that being single has some
advantages.
So it seems unlikely that he's
gonna start with essentially a
command or advice that everyone
should get married when later in
the same chapter he's gonna
say, you know, singleness has
some advantages in some
situations.
So it is possible that he
starts off saying, I want
everyone to get married, except
here and here and here, but we
don't see him arguing like that
in his other letters.
This phrase have his own wife
is a common phrase in Greek for
having sexual relations.
It is a term like kind of like
our making love that refers to
physical intimacy, and it shows
up often in the Septuagint.
The Septuagint is the Greek
translation of the Old
Testament, and Paul was familiar
with that translation.
Just to give you one example,
we see this phrase in
Deuteronomy twenty eight thirty.
That's the Hebrew.
The Septuagint version reads,
you shall take a wife, but
another man shall have her.
Now this is a series of curses
for disobedience, and one of
them is you're going to marry a
woman, but another man will have
her, and the idea is that
someone else is going to sleep
with her.
And that phrase is the one we
see here.
That Greek phrase shows up in
several places in the Septuagint
to refer specifically to sexual
relations.
Now to be fair, this Greek
phrase does not always refer to
sexuality.
It also shows up in context
where it means simply that
you're married, that he has a
wife or she has a husband, that
he is married and not single.
So we have to decide which one
of those does Paul mean here.
The fact that this phrase can
refer to sexual relations is not
a knockdown argument that it
does mean sexual relations in
any particular verse.
Context is king and will decide
the issue.
And in fact, later in this very
chapter, Paul's going to use
this same phrase to talk about
those who have a wife, and there
I think he means those who are
married.
So there's our first big
interpretive decision.
All that said, I think
understanding it here as sexual
relations in this context makes
a whole lot more sense of the
flow of thought.
But again, this is one of those
issues that sincere and genuine
believers may disagree about.
I think the context makes more
sense if you presume that Paul
is not addressing the question,
if you're single, should you get
married, but rather Paul is
addressing the question, if
you're married, should you avoid
sexual relations?
Now that seems a very strange
idea in our culture today, but
remember there was an ascetic
group at the time that advocated
that married folks ought to be
celebrate.
In a culture where singleness
was the rare exception to the
rule, and you basically had to
be married once you reached a
certain age, it was just
unthinkable not to be married.
And now you have this idea
floating around that everything
physical is base, and that would
lead to the question, well,
yeah, I know I'm married, but if
I'm so spiritually enlightened
that I need to avoid the
physical stuff, then shouldn't I
just be avoiding sexuality
altogether, whether I'm married
or not?
And I think that's the
situation Paul's addressing.
This idea that now that I'm on
this spiritually enlightened
path of following God, I see
that sexuality is a bad thing
and it ought to be avoided.
So despite the fact that I
married before I reached this
new stage of spiritual
enlightenment, I should avoid my
wife or my husband now, because
now I've seen the light and I'm
just too spiritual for all that
physical stuff.
So that gives you a situation
where one person in the marriage
has decided that he or she is
too spiritual for sexuality, and
that leaves the other person in
the marriage involuntarily
celibate.
That person finds themselves
married and living a celibate
existence even though they don't
want to.
So one person has made a choice
because he or she thinks living
a spiritually enlightened life
is better, and he or she is
forcing that choice on his or
her spouse.
I think that understanding
makes the most sense of the next
two verses, and that this
statement in seven two is
parallel to what he's going to
say next in seven three and
four.
So let's read those.
The husband must fulfill his
duty to his wife, and likewise
also the wife to her husband.
The wife does not have
authority over her own body, but
the husband does, and likewise
the husband does not have
authority over his own body, but
the wife does.
So I would see the issue in all
three verses in seven, two to
four, is Mary.
People need to cherish a sexual
relationship with their
spouses.
I think that makes sense if
their statement, it's good for a
man not to touch a woman,
arises from the view that they
should abstain from sexuality
altogether, even in marriage.
And notice how that builds.
Then each verse builds on each
statement.
So 7-2, he says, no married
people should continue to enjoy
a sexual relationship.
7-3 adds the husband and wife
owe this to each other because
of their commitment.
And 7-4 adds, the husband and
wife do not have authority over
their own bodies in this matter,
such that one spouse can make a
choice and force it on the
other spouse.
Okay, now let's talk about this
owing and not having authority.
I think this is an important
idea when understood in the
right way and in the right
context, but it is also an idea
that has been much misunderstood
and much abused.
Now remember, I'm starting from
the premise that one spouse is
saying, I know we're married,
but I'm just too spiritually
enlightened now to have sex with
you anymore, and that that's
the situation that Paul has in
view.
And into that situation, Paul
is saying, I don't have the
right to remove myself from my
spouse in that way.
As we talked about in the last
podcast, a biblical marriage is
three commitments, and one of
the three is to share my whole
life with my spouse, which
includes my body.
I have made a commitment to
join my life to my spouse, and
sexuality is part of that
commitment.
As we talked about in the last
podcast, it is the language of
marriage.
It is a reflection of these
three intimate, wonderful
commitments.
I have entered into an
obligation by making the
marriage commitment.
So just like I don't have the
right to pursue an adulterous
relationship, so I don't have
the right to say we're gonna
live like roommates from now on.
In entering into the marriage
relationship, I've made a
commitment, and that means I
don't have the freedom to make
that kind of choice now.
I can't go back on the gift of
myself that I have made to my
spouse.
Now notice what Paul is doing
and what he's not doing.
Paul is telling me to think
about myself in a certain way.
I myself have an obligation to
my spouse because of the
commitments I have made, and he
is encouraging me to do right by
my spouse.
So I myself do not have the
right to take back the promise
that I made in my marriage vows.
He's not saying I have the
right to demand that my spouse
give me whatever I want whenever
I want it.
The emphasis is on my
obligation to fulfill my
commitments.
He's not saying I have the
right to place demands on my
spouse to do whatever I want my
spouse to do or not do.
See the shift?
He's pointing to here's the
obligation you need to keep if
you're married.
He is not giving a blanket
promise of you can demand
whatever you want.
In fact, placing demands goes
against the idea of sexuality
expressing the commitment of
marriage that we talked about in
the last podcast.
Once you start putting quotas
in place or keeping score of how
often is often enough or not
often enough, the language of
sexuality shifts from this is
something we do to cherish each
other and express our marital
commitment and becomes this is
what you have to do for me.
And Paul's emphasis here is on
how each of us gives of
ourselves, not on what each of
us can demand that we receive.
So Paul's emphasis is I don't
have the right to say I'm too
spiritual for all that physical
stuff.
Not I have the right to have my
every need met at any given
moment.
That's not what's in view.
In fact, nothing in what he
says ought to be used as a
weapon in a marriage, and it
should not be taken to mean I
can make demands on my spouse.
I think this verse has often
been abused this way, but I
don't think that's what Paul is
saying.
The point he's making is
neither person in a biblical
marriage has the right to decide
that they are above sexuality.
He is not making the point that
one spouse has the right to
make demands on the other
spouse.
Let's bring in seven five.
Stop depriving one another
except by agreement for a time
so that you may devote
yourselves to prayer and come
together again so that Satan
will not tempt you because of
your lack of self-control.
I think this phrase stop
depriving one another helps to
clarify the issue that he's
addressing.
Stop depriving one another
implies that one spouse has
decided that he or she is too
spiritual for sexuality.
He's saying you don't have the
right to impose involuntary
celibacy on your spouse, who
remember is the person you
promised to make the most
special thing in all creation.
But he makes an exception,
except perhaps by agreement for
a limited time so that you may
devote yourselves to prayer, but
then come together again.
When you first read this, it
sounds like he may be
recommending regular periods of
abstinence in marriage, to
forget about sexuality and pray
instead as if sexuality somehow
interferes with your prayers,
but he doesn't really say that.
If I have correctly understood
the situation, and again that's
an interpretive choice that I
may be wrong on, but if I have
correctly understood the
situation, he is talking to
people who are claiming I'm so
spiritually enlightened that I
am now above sexuality.
I have such a pure relationship
with God that I don't involve
myself in physical pursuits
anymore.
And I think he's saying, okay,
if you happen to think that
abstaining from sexuality
enhances your relationship with
God in some way, you could have
a short period of abstinence for
the purpose of devoting
yourself to God, but he gives
two conditions and a
clarification.
The first condition is it must
be by mutual consent.
That is, both spouses have to
agree that this is a good thing
and they want to do it.
And the second condition is
that it's for a short period of
time.
The abstinence will end and you
come back together.
Then in 7-6 he gives the
clarification, but this I say by
way of concession, not of
command.
So his clarification is I am
not saying I agree with this.
This is not my idea.
I, Paul, do not think that
sexuality hinders your prayer
life, but I'm willing to concede
that if you find that it
hinders your prayer life in some
way, and you both agree that
you want a time to wholly devote
yourself to God, I'll make a
concession.
So if you find some value in
doing that, okay.
I'm not saying you can enhance
your spiritual life by
abstaining from sexuality with
your spouse, but if you think it
has some value, go ahead.
But both of you have to agree
and it has to be limited.
Remember, I think he is
addressing married believers who
have concluded that they should
stay away from sexuality
altogether, and he's saying, if
you see some value in
abstinence, okay, but it ought
to be mutually agreed to and for
a short period of time.
Now we get to what I think is
the hardest part of the section,
what he starts and ends with.
In 7.2, he says, but because of
immoralities, and then he
launches into what we've just
looked at.
And in 7.5, he says, so that
Satan will not tempt you because
of your lack of self-control.
What's going on with these
phrases and what's he adding to
the argument?
That phrase because of
immoralities sometimes gets
translated fornication or sexual
immorality.
In 7.2, it's just the plural of
the word fornications or
immoralities, it's the word
pornea, which has been used
throughout our discussion.
We've seen it in 5.1, 510, 511,
6.9, 613, and 618.
And Paul seems to be appealing
to this lack of self-control or
a tendency toward immorality as
a basis for not avoiding
marriage or not abstaining in
marriage.
So there is some lack of
self-control that seems to be
part of his argument.
I'm not sure I've got this one
figured out, but here's my best
guess at this point.
Remember, Paul is writing to a
particular group in response to
a particular question, and we
don't have the question, and we
don't know everything that's
going on in the group, but Paul
does.
He's responding to a particular
situation, they've asked him a
question, presumably told him
what's going on in their church,
and he's answering that
question, and we have to
reconstruct the situation.
I reconstruct the situation
something like this.
You Corinthians live in a
sexually decadent culture.
In your culture, it is very
acceptable for married men to
regularly visit the temple
prostitutes, and your culture
values arranged and calculated
loveless marriages as a way to
raise legitimate children and
heirs.
Being faithful to a spouse, not
that highly prized in your
culture.
And perhaps, as we saw in
chapter six, some of the
Corinthians were regularly
visiting temple prostitutes and
they think it's no big deal.
So here you are in this
culture, and let's assume the
wife has announced that she is
too spiritual for sexuality and
she's done with all that.
What would result from that
situation?
In a culture where temple
prostitution is the norm, if you
have wives who are too holy for
sexuality, what are most of the
husbands going to do?
The temptation would be
powerful and overwhelming to
visit the temple prostitutes.
And so the result of this too
holy for sexuality attitude is
going to be increased
immorality.
Now, I am not saying that Paul
would ever turn to the wives and
say, see what you made him do.
I think Paul would argue that
each of us is responsible for
our own actions and our own
choices.
So I am not arguing that in my
situation the wife is culpable
in some way for her husband's
actions.
That's a whole nother talk, but
I think we can learn from
Paul's other letters that he
would argue that each of us is
responsible for our own actions
and choices.
But we have this language of
because of immoralities and so
that Satan may not tempt you
because of your lack of
self-control.
He's pointing to the
individual's lack of
self-control, and I think his
point is look at how this
situation has been working out
in your group so far.
You think that abstinence has
helped you reach these new
heights of spiritual
enlightenment, but it's actually
resulting in increased
immorality.
The attitude isn't helping,
it's hurting.
This attitude is not resulting
in increasing spiritual purity,
it's been resulting in
increasing sexual immorality.
So you're not accomplishing
what you think you're
accomplishing.
Rather than making yourselves
more holy, you are putting
yourself and your spouse in a
place where you are truly
vulnerable and likely to sin.
So I think Paul is voicing a
positive view of marriage and
sexuality.
As I understand the Greek and
Roman world at the time, for
men, sex with your wife was
primarily for the purpose of
producing an heir.
Otherwise, there were temple
prostitutes and mistresses and
young men to fulfill your
pleasure, but culturally you
didn't look to your wife for
fulfillment, you looked to your
wife for an heir.
By contrast, Paul is offering
this picture of marriage with a
positive place for sexuality
that is for much more than
producing an heir.
Producing children is part of
the picture, but it's not the
only part.
He's not saying once you have
an heir and a spare, you're
done.
He's saying marriage is this
unique commitment expressed by
the language of sexuality, and
that is a wonderful gift from
God.
There is something wrong about
withdrawing myself from my
spouse.
There's nothing wrong with
being single, but if you're
married, it's wrong to act as if
you're single.
So I think Paul is offering a
profoundly positive view of
marriage and sexuality,
especially given the culture of
the day.
And notice the strong emphasis
on mutuality.
He says both the husband and
the wife have an obligation to
each other.
Both of them ought to cherish
and treat their spouse with love
and respect and honor.
He does not say the wife has an
obligation to the husband, but
the husband can do whatever he
pleases.
In a marriage they have entered
into a partnership where each
has an equal, respectful, self
sacrificing obligation to the
other, and that would be a
striking and novel idea in
Paul's culture.
Now we all recognize that there
are sexual differences in men
and women.
Broadly speaking, for the most
part, men are more aggressively
interested in physical sexuality
and women are more aggressively
interested in romance.
Perhaps that's a gross
oversimplification of the
differences, but for the sake of
argument, grant that it's true,
at least in a general sense.
If I'm right about this
passage, Paul would say to these
differences so what?
Sexuality in marriage is meant
to be mutual giving, something
that each person is doing for
the sake of the other to express
their love and commitment to
each other, and neither of you
have the right to demand that
your spouse meet your every
need.
So nothing in what I say should
be taken as a weapon that you
can use to get something from
your spouse.
That's not his point.
The point is you've made this
commitment to your spouse and
you ought to honor it.
And if that means wives learn
to speak a more physically
sexual language to their
husbands, and husbands learn to
speak a more romantic language
to their wives, that's a good
thing.
But neither of you have the
right to demand that your spouse
speak only your preferred love
language.
You ought to be thinking about
your spouse and vice versa, and
that means taking the
differences into account and
then working it out with mutual
respect and love and
consideration.
I think it is a profound
misunderstanding of verse four
and this phrase authority over
your own body for either spouse
to claim that they have the
right to demand that the other
spouse fulfill their every need.
So I think it's wrong for a
husband to demand that his wife
fulfill his every need whenever
he says, and it's wrong for the
wife to demand that her husband
fulfill her needs whenever she
says.
The emphasis in the verse is on
mutual giving and sacrificing.
And Paul's emphasis is you
think about what your obligation
is.
Whenever the Bible calls
someone to submission, it is
always addressed to the person
being asked to submit.
So children are asked to
recognize their parents'
responsibility, citizens are
asked to recognize their
government's responsibility and
submit to it, and spouses have
made a commitment in marriage
and are under an obligation to
fulfill that commitment.
So wives are asked to recognize
their husbands' responsibility
and submit, and husbands are
asked to love their wives as
Christ loved the church.
The question is what is my
moral stance?
What ought I to do in this
situation?
Never, never is the responsible
person told to demand
obedience.
In fact, quite the opposite,
usually the responsible person
is told to lay down his life as
a servant for the person he's
responsible for.
So it's a misunderstanding to
use a call for me to fulfill my
promise as a weapon to
manipulate or force someone else
to keep their promise to me.
It's not okay for me to be
selfish because Paul says, hey,
you have an obligation.
Obligation is not an excuse for
selfishness or insensitivity or
abuse or lack of respect.
I have an obligation to think
about and consider the needs of
my spouse.
The issue is how am I going to
respond, not what can I get from
my spouse.
So I don't have an excuse to
make demands on my spouse.
The obligation exists in this
context of a requirement to be
loving and self-sacrificing.
If I'm right in my
understanding so far, then
Paul's argument leads very
logically to the next question
he addresses, which is, okay,
Paul, we get it.
Married people should act like
married people, but what if
you're not married right now?
Isn't marriage itself dirty?
And wouldn't it be truly more
spiritually enlightening if we
just abstained from marriage in
the first place?
As you've said, marriage
involves this physical language,
but we know the physical
language is corrupt and profane
while the spiritual is pure and
good, so the real answer is we
should just not get married at
all, right?
And that's what Paul's going to
address in the next section,
but we're gonna leave that for
the next podcast.
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