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Krisan Marotta: Good morning.
My name is Krisan Marotta, and
you're listening to Wednesday in
the Word, my podcast about what
the Bible means and how we
know.
Today we're studying 1
Corinthians 8, verses 1 through
3.
This is the 21st talk in our
series on 1 Corinthians.
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Let's get started.
If you're just joining us in
this series, let me give you a
brief review of what Corinthians
is about.
Paul, the Apostle Paul, wrote
this letter.
He founded the church in
Corinth during what we call his
second missionary journey, and
he lived in Corinth for about a
year and a half.
He is writing this letter
during what we call his third
missionary journey, and he is
writing from Ephesus.
The Corinthians have written
Paul a letter which we don't
have, and Paul is responding to
that letter and to a verbal
report that he received about
all the things that were going
on in Corinth.
So in the first four chapters
of the letter, Paul responded to
that verbal report.
And he has a rather contentious
relationship with the church in
Corinth.
Some in that church have
decided that Paul does not have
wisdom as they define it, and
they have gone so far as to
reject his authority as an
apostle, and that's the main
issue he deals with in the first
four chapters.
Then in chapters five and six,
he rebukes them for not dealing
with a situation that is
blatantly sinful and going on in
their church.
And in chapter seven, he starts
answering the specific
questions that they have asked
him.
So you'll notice seven one
begins now concerning the things
about which you wrote.
And we will keep seeing that
phrase coming up throughout the
book, now concerning.
And that signals that he is
starting a new section or a new
question.
Now we have Paul's answers, but
we don't have the questions the
Corinthians asked.
So we have to guess.
It's like listening to one side
of a telephone conversation.
We have to kind of figure out
what's going on on the other end
of the line.
And how you understand the
question that they're asking
greatly influences how you
understand Paul's answer.
So we have to figure that out
from context and what we know of
the historical situation.
And these questions that the
Corinthians are asking are not
philosophical, theoretical
issues.
They are real problems that are
causing divisions and strife in
their church.
So these are not the questions
of hypothetically how would you
handle this, the kind of thing
you might debate over a cup of
coffee.
These are real issues the
church is struggling with, and
they've asked Paul to weigh in.
Chapter eight starts the second
question that he addresses, and
his answer to this question is
going to run through chapter
ten.
At least in my opinion, I think
chapters eight through ten are
one unit and one coherent
argument.
Even though it may seem like he
switched subjects at times, I
think he's still answering this
question.
So the question he's addressing
now is is it okay to eat meat
that has been sacrificed to
idols?
Some in the Corinthian church
feel strongly that it is okay to
eat such meat, and others feel
strongly that it's not okay, and
they want Paul to settle the
issue.
And they are looking at each
other with some measure of
derision and suspicion, and Paul
is going to address not only
the issue of what they should
and shouldn't eat, but also
their attitude toward each other
and the way they're treating
each other in this dispute.
Now I think it's probably safe
to say that none of you
listening to this podcast are
struggling with the issue of
whether or not you should eat
meat sacrificed to idols.
In fact, I bet none of you has
been offered any meat sacrificed
to an idol lately, and you're
probably wondering, can't we
just skip this section and move
on to something a little more
relevant?
Well, that raises the question,
what are we supposed to do with
a letter that addresses a
problem that we don't have
anymore?
How is that important or
relevant to us?
I think it's relevant because
Paul was an apostle.
He is one of a handful of
individuals who were inspired
with accurate and profound
understanding of the gospel.
He is one of a handful of
people that God chose to speak
for him.
God called him, God chose him,
God taught him such that Paul
knows what he's talking about.
He has been given an
understanding that matches God's
understanding.
So when he explains an issue we
want to pay attention.
He is addressing this issue of
meat sacrifice to idols out of
that inspired understanding.
What we want to learn from Paul
is how does he understand the
world?
What did he think was true and
important?
What principles did he use to
settle this issue?
How did he understand this
life?
And once we have that
understanding, we can apply it
to the situations that we face
today.
So here's our job as modern
Bible students.
First, we want to understand
the issue.
What was the situation that
Paul was addressing, and we want
to figure that out as clearly
as we can.
Then we want to understand his
answer.
What in fact did he say to
them?
How did he respond?
And as we wrestle with that, we
want to try to understand why
he said what he said.
What principles and truths led
Paul to reach the conclusions
that he reached?
Why would he tell them to do X
and not Y?
Sometimes Paul tells us plainly
why he's giving the instruction
he gives, and sometimes he
doesn't.
We have to work to figure it
out.
Only after all of that process
do we want to then try to answer
the question, so what or what
does this mean for me today?
And we want to apply those
principles and those truths to
the issues that we face now.
Now this process takes work and
we're not going to get very far
today.
His answer covers the next
three chapters, and it's going
to seem like we're dealing with
issues that are not immediately
relevant to us, but we'll get
there.
In fact, I think the lessons
we're ultimately going to learn
from this section are incredibly
profound.
Because I'm going to argue that
this section is not just about
meat sacrificed to idols, it's
about our attitudes, our values,
it's about the relationship
between freedom and
responsibility and truth and
knowledge and love.
And even though the surface
issue of meat sacrifice to idols
seems remote and not applicable
to us, if we can learn why Paul
says what he says, we will come
away with truths that we can
apply to just about any
situation we face today.
Now we're not going to get very
far into the argument today
because I want to look carefully
at how he opens the topic.
Let's read chapter 8, verses 1
through 3.
Now concerning things
sacrificed to idols, we know
that we all have knowledge.
Knowledge makes arrogant, but
love edifies.
If anyone supposes that he
knows anything, he is not yet
known as he ought to know.
But if anyone loves God, he is
known by him.
So Paul starts out telling us
that the issue is food that has
been sacrificed to idols.
But notice he's not talking
about idols and he's not talking
about food.
He starts out talking about
knowledge.
And I think that's significant,
and we want to ask why.
Why in a discussion of the
merits of meat sacrifice to
idols does Paul start with this
statement, we all have
knowledge.
Knowledge makes arrogant, but
love edifies.
And what I think is going on is
that it is the use of knowledge
that is at the heart of Paul's
argument.
So let me set up the issue for
us.
At the time Paul's writing,
Corinth had various temples to a
variety of pagan gods, and
people would come to these
temples and make offerings of
meat.
Well what happened to the meat
after that?
The pagan gods are not there to
actually eat it, so what
happened to it after the rituals
were complete?
Well, some of it was burnt up
in the offering, and some of it
was sold in the marketplace.
And in fact, some historians
think that almost all the meat
or a lot of the meat that was in
the marketplace came from meat
that was offered in pagan
temples first.
Furthermore, there's some
evidence that some of the pagan
temples had dining rooms and
that members of the community
would eat together in these
dining rooms, kind of like going
out to eat at a restaurant.
Only this room was connected
with the temple, and everyone
knew it was a communal meal
celebrating whatever pagan deity
that temple served.
So it was a religious event,
but it was also a social event.
You would see your friends and
your neighbors at these meals in
the dining room of the temple.
Now many of the believers in
the church in Corinth were
Gentiles.
Before converting to
Christianity, pagan worship
would have been a regular part
of their lives.
They would have lots of
experience with offering meat in
the temples and then eating
these communal meals.
They would have been in the
habit of participating in these
rituals and eating at the
temple, and for many they were a
social event as well as a
religious event, and something
they probably grew up doing and
had done all their lives.
So now that they've come to
faith, the question is, do we
need to stop that practice?
What needs to change?
And some of the new believers
have rightly argued, look, these
idols are not real.
There's no one really there.
They don't exist.
Meat that's been sacrificed to
idols is just meat.
It's not contaminated.
It won't turn you into a pagan
by eating it, it's just meat,
and we are free to eat it.
We're free to buy it at the
meat market and we're free to
eat it.
And some of the comments Paul
makes indicate that they also
feel free to go to the temple
dining rooms and eat the meat
there.
We know these idols don't
exist, we're going to go and eat
and see our friends and enjoy
the meal.
It doesn't mean anything to us,
it's just meat.
Others in the community don't
feel this freedom.
They argue that to participate
in these meals or to buy meat at
the marketplace is to
participate in and support the
practice of idolatry, which of
course is something we should
avoid.
Participating in any part of
this idol's rituals is idolatry
and it would be wrong to
participate.
And that's the issue dividing
the church.
Now the argument of those who
feel free to participate is that
we know the idols aren't real.
Yes, those pagans participating
still think that the deities
are real, but we know better.
We know there's only one God,
and he is not the god of that
temple.
We know that we are not
worshiping a real being, we are
not intending to worship other
gods.
Now, if we were intending to
worship another god, that would
be wrong, but that's not our
intention.
We're not going there to
worship.
We're going there to eat, and
we know there is no god there to
worship, we're just going for a
meal.
This is just plain old regular
meat.
The fact that it was offered to
an idol before it was placed on
my table doesn't change
anything.
It's just meat.
I have knowledge, I know what
I'm doing.
I know there is no real God
behind that idol, and in my
knowledge of what is true, I
have the freedom to eat this
meat because there's nothing
wrong with the meat.
Worshiping idols is wrong, but
eating meat is not wrong, and I
know all that I'm doing is
eating meat.
It is their knowledge that
makes it okay to eat the meat.
It is their accurate
understanding of what they are
doing that gives them the
freedom to eat meat.
I think that's why Paul starts
his answer by addressing
knowledge.
He's responding to their
argument that their knowledge
that the idols are fake gives
them the freedom to eat the
meat.
They know what's really going
on.
Their knowledge is the basis
for their decision to act a
certain way, and they know that
the idols are not real gods, so
they can eat the meat.
Paul is going to argue that the
knowledge that I am free to eat
the meat is not enough.
I must also ask what effect my
freedom has on others.
Now you may be familiar with
what we call the argument of the
weaker brother, and this is
where Paul's going to go in this
section.
What sort of obligation do I
have to make sure that I don't
confuse or cause another to
stumble?
Even though I know the truth,
even though I have the freedom
to act a certain way, what
should I do in light of the fact
that others don't share that
knowledge or understand that
freedom?
How do I decide what to do?
Well, that's where we're going
to go, but we're not going to
get there today.
Today I want to look at what he
says about knowledge, and we'll
get to the weaker brother
argument in the next podcast.
Basically, Paul's going to say,
There's more at stake here than
freedom.
I can't elevate my knowledge of
my rights above my obligation
to love my brother or sister.
So knowledge of my freedom is
not enough.
Let me read eight one through
three again, and then we're
going to talk about some of
these phrases.
Now concerning things
sacrificed to idols, we know
that we all have knowledge.
Knowledge makes arrogant, but
love edifies.
If anyone supposes that he
knows anything, he is not yet
known as he ought to know.
But if anyone loves God, he is
known by him.
So let's start with this phrase
we know that we all have
knowledge.
I suspect that Paul is
responding to their argument.
They're saying we know the
truth, we know it's just meat.
We know these are false gods,
and we know that we don't intend
to worship them by eating this
meat, and we are perfectly
within our rights and we know
it.
And Paul's responding, yes, we
all have knowledge.
We all know that the idols are
fake.
On that point we agree.
But knowledge is not the only
factor here.
So notice he is not arguing
that their knowledge is wrong.
He agrees with them on the
facts of the situation.
He shares their perspective on
what is true, that it's just
meat and the idols are nothing,
and there's nothing
intrinsically wrong with eating
the meat.
But he's going to go on to say
there's more at stake than
knowledge.
But first he says knowledge
puffs up, but love builds up.
So knowledge makes arrogant,
but love edifies.
And this is one of those
catchphrases that gets quoted
and framed and put on pillows
and walls.
But we want to make sure that
we understand it in the context
of the argument that Paul is
making.
Some have taken this phrase and
argued that Paul is dismissing
knowledge and asking us to put
love in its place.
They would claim Paul is
arguing that we should just
forget about theology, we should
stop trying to wrestle with
these deep issues, and we should
just ignore doctrine, maybe
even stop reading scripture, and
instead we should just love one
another.
As if knowledge and love are
mutually exclusive and you can
only choose between them, you
can't have them both.
So they would argue, in a
sense, you can only do one or
the other.
And if you seek to know and
understand, that's going to make
you arrogant.
So clearly you need to choose
love, because love builds others
up.
And which do you want?
Do you want to be arrogant or
do you want to encourage others?
Those are your only options.
Well, I don't think those are
our only options.
And if Paul really believed
that there was a disconnect
between love and knowledge, why
would he bother to write this
letter?
Or any of his letters,
particularly one like Romans.
Paul imparts a great deal of
knowledge in this letter and in
his others' letters, and why
would he do that if he thinks
that knowledge is unimportant
and only leads to arrogance?
Paul makes rather sophisticated
and rational and complex
arguments in this letter and
they are intended to persuade
the Corinthians about what is
true.
He wants them to know the
difference between truth and
error, between right and wrong,
and to be able to live their
lives in light of that truth.
If, as some claim, that Paul is
making an argument against
knowledge and in favor of love
and pitting them against each
other, then he's making a
rational argument against the
value of rational arguments.
And that makes no sense.
So we want to keep this verse
in the context of the argument
he's making.
I don't think Paul intends to
make a sweeping generalization
that knowledge forever and
always in all forms and all
circumstances leads to
arrogance, but loves builds up,
so stop pursuing knowledge and
theology.
That's not what he's saying.
Remember the situation that
Paul is addressing.
Some in Corinth are saying I am
perfectly justified in eating
whatever I want to eat because I
have knowledge.
I rightly understand what is
true, and therefore I am free to
eat this meat.
I know that the idols are fake.
My knowledge is superior to
yours.
You think eating meat is wrong,
but I know it's right.
My knowledge is better than
yours, and I'm better off
because I know better than you
what is right and what is wrong.
I know that this is right, and
I'm going to eat it because I
know there's nothing wrong with
eating it, but you're still
confused.
You're wrong, I'm right, I know
this is true, get over it.
That's the kind of knowledge
Paul's talking about, the kind
of knowledge that becomes the
justification for me doing what
I want to do despite the
consequences.
And Paul is going to argue that
even though their knowledge is
accurate, their behavior is
having destructive consequences.
So those who know they are free
to eat meat, let's call them
the free thinkers.
The free thinkers in the
Corinthian church are motivated
by two things.
They want to eat whatever they
want to eat, and they have the
knowledge that they're free to
eat it.
So they want to eat the meat
sacrificed to the idols, and
they know that they can, and
they think that their knowledge
gives them permission to do
exactly what they want to do.
What they have not asked
themselves is how do my actions
affect my brother?
Should I refrain from eating
the meat, even though I want to
eat it and I'm free to eat it,
because it's more important that
I love my brother.
So Paul is talking about
knowledge that serves my
self-interest, knowledge that
makes me think I'm superior to
those who lack my knowledge, and
that's the kind of knowledge
that puffs up.
If my only concern in the
situation is I know better than
you, that can lead to arrogance.
By contrast, love is concerned
with more than who's right and
who's wrong.
If my only concern is
knowledge, then I can say I'm
right and I'll do whatever I
want.
But if my concern includes
love, then I can say I am right,
but ask the next question, what
will result from me exercising
my freedom?
What are the consequences to
those who are watching me?
Love means I'm not merely
concerned with who's right and
who's wrong, I'm also concerned
with the impact my choices are
having.
Okay, so let's keep that in
mind and read verses two and
three again.
If anyone supposes that he
knows anything, he is not yet
known as he ought to know, but
if anyone loves God, he is known
by him.
He starts if anyone supposes
that he knows anything.
Well that kind of seems to
apply to everyone.
We all think we know something,
especially the biblical
authors.
They present themselves as
knowing the truth that God has
revealed, and they claim to be
able to speak for Jesus Christ,
to tell you accurately what he
thought and what he taught.
And Paul's letters read like
someone who believes that what
he knows is true, and if you
think differently, you are wrong
and Paul is right.
That's the way Paul writes,
that's the way Jesus talked.
All the biblical authors
present themselves as knowing
the truth in opposition to other
perspectives which are far.
False I don't think Paul is
claiming here that it's wrong to
think that you know the truth,
and neither is he claiming that
there is no truth to know.
He's not claiming knowledge is
an illusion.
He's addressing the attitude
that says, I can ignore you
because I know the truth.
I'm right, you're wrong, get
over it.
If anyone thinks he knows
something, that is, if anyone
thinks he's superior because of
his knowledge, if anyone thinks
he's justified in doing what he
wants to do because he knows
it's right, or anyone who has
that kind of smug idea that I
have the right to do this and
that justifies all my behavior
in all circumstances, it's that
kind of arrogant attitude that
Paul has in mind.
So if anyone has that kind of
arrogant attitude, he has not
yet known as he ought to know.
I think the idea there is he is
not yet using his knowledge as
God intended his knowledge to be
used.
So he is misusing knowledge.
He is not yet known as he ought
to know, he has not yet done
what he ought to do with that
knowledge.
But if anyone loves God, he is
has been known by him.
Let's look at that phrase.
The free thinkers in Corinth
say, I know it's all right to
eat this meat because I have
true knowledge about God.
I know that the idols are fake.
I know that the God of Jesus
Christ is the one true God and
the author and creator of the
universe.
I know better than to think
that there is some idol
accepting this meat.
I know God.
Paul is making the contrast.
Okay, you know God, but do you
love him?
Do you want to be like him?
Do you value what he values?
Are you seeking him and trying
to live the way he says we ought
to live?
And do you love the things of
God, including his people?
You may know about God, but the
one who knows God and seeks
after him has done you one
better because he knows more
than that God exists, he strives
to follow him and to be like
him, and more importantly, God
knows him.
Paul adds that phrase is kind
of an ironic twist.
The real important issue is not
whether I know all the facts
about God and have accurate
theology.
The more important issue is
whether God knows me and I am
his.
Am I one of his children?
Am I one in whom his spirit is
working?
The phrase for God to know
someone usually refers to being
one of God's people, and I think
that's what Paul means here.
It doesn't mean that God knows
you exist, but rather that you
belong to him.
He has chosen you, you are one
of his people.
So the contrast is between
knowing about God and loving
God, knowing about God and
belonging to him and being one
of his people.
The free thinkers are boasting
that they are right.
They don't have to listen to
anyone else because they are
right.
They don't need to consider
those who disagree with them.
And we'll see that they are in
fact right.
Their facts are straight, but
they are using that right to
ignore the consequences of their
actions, and that's what Paul
is questioning them on.
He's saying, Do you really love
the God you say you know?
Your actions are kind of a red
flag that you don't really love
God.
You may have all the facts
correct, but do you love him?
Do you want to be holy as he is
holy?
Do you want to love what he
loves, including his people?
So they know about God, but
they don't seem to love their
neighbor as themselves, one of
the key things God would ask
them to do.
So they know about God, but the
way they're responding to those
who disagree with him indicates
that they don't really love God
or their brothers.
So I would paraphrase these
verses something like this.
Now concerning your question
regarding meat sacrifice to
idols, I know that some of you
are justifying your behavior by
saying you know all about the
idols and that everyone knows
the idols are fake.
While I grant you the truth of
that, such knowledge is not
enough.
Thinking that you're superior
because of your knowledge only
inflates your opinion of
yourselves, whereas love, which
is our true calling, is intended
to build up others.
If anyone thinks he knows the
truth and is therefore
justifying in ignoring and
disrespecting those who disagree
with him and doing whatever he
wants, he is not using his
knowledge in the way God
intends.
But if anyone loves God as
opposed to just knowing about
God, then not only does he know
God, but more importantly, God
knows him.
So let me try to wrap all this
up and put it together.
Paul is exploring the
relationship between knowledge
and arrogance, the love of God
and loving my brother.
And he's giving an important
warning here.
There's a distinction between
understanding theology and
personal submission to God.
Theology can be correct, but it
can be incomplete, and I think
that's what's happening to some
in Corinth.
The free thinkers are boasting
in their knowledge, but we could
appropriately say there's a
sense in which they don't know
enough because they're not using
that knowledge in the right
way.
Knowledge is useless unless it
leads to humility and faith and
humbly seeking God.
Knowledge by itself does not
save you.
Doctrine doesn't save you,
theology doesn't save you.
What saves you is faith, humbly
acknowledging your need for
God's mercy and grace and the
rescue that He is bringing in
Jesus Christ.
Being right does not make you
righteous or forgiven.
Being right does not justify
you before God, and being right
does not make you holy or
spiritual.
We are justified by the blood
of Christ, and we will be made
holy by the Spirit of God
changing us from the inside out.
Yes, part of what the Spirit
does is enlighten us, open our
eyes so that we gain
understanding and knowledge, but
it is the blood of Christ and
the grace of God and the
activity of the Holy Spirit that
brings all that about.
Without that, without the blood
of Christ and the grace of God,
knowledge is worthless.
So I would say Paul is not
pitting knowledge and love
against each other.
You can have both.
In fact, you need to have both.
Ultimately, knowing and
proclaiming the truth can be
part of loving someone.
We are called to speak the
truth in love to each other.
We are called to seek the truth
together.
It's not loving to let someone
trot off to hell without saying
a word.
It's not loving to let someone
continue in sin and ignorance
when God has given us a measure
of the truth.
So it's important to make the
distinction between truth and
error and to know the truth and
to know truth from lies, but we
need to be aware how easily we
can turn that distinction into
arrogance.
Whenever you say this is truth,
it's really tempting to follow
it up with, hey, and I'm the one
that figured it out, not you.
Even if we don't say it, we can
think it, we can believe that
that knowledge makes us better.
And that's where we have to
remember we are all sinners in
need of grace and mercy.
Any truth we know is a gift of
God through the work of the
Spirit in our lives.
Any truth we know is because
God in His mercy has opened our
eyes to it and given us the
understanding, not because we're
so smart or such hot stuff.
So I think we need to take
seriously what Paul says here in
this section and try to learn
the proper relationship between
love and knowledge and seek to
live that out.
Paul is not anti-theology.
Paul's against using theology
to justify selfishness or pride.
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provided by Reggie Coates of
Heartfeltmusic.org.
He is my favorite musician, and
I encourage you to listen to
his other songs.
Thank you for joining me today.
I'm Krisan Marotta, and I'll
meet you here next week at
Wednesday in the Word.