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Welcome back to the Wednesday in the Word podcast. I'm Krisan Marotta, and this is my podcast about what the Bible means and how we know. Today
is tenth talk in our series on
the Gospel of John.
And this is the first of two
podcasts where we will study
John chapter 4.
Thanks for listening.
For those of you who are just
joining us, let me review how we
got to this place in the Gospel
of John.
This is a big picture study.
We are tackling entire chapters
at a time and we're looking at
the big themes and overarching
structure of the book.
I've argued that John's primary
concern in this Gospel is
belief.
His fundamental thesis
statement is those who believe
the testimony that Jesus is the
Christ will receive eternal
life.
John has been exploring issues
surrounding belief, testimony,
and the necessity of being born
again.
So he's been dealing with
questions like these.
Why does it matter what we
believe about Jesus?
What reasons do we have to
believe that Jesus is the
Messiah?
Why should we believe what we
haven't seen for ourselves?
And why do some people believe
this message while others reject
it?
Author John began his account
with the testimony of John the
Baptist.
God told John the Baptist how
he would recognize the Messiah,
and John testifies when he
baptized Jesus, he saw those
signs.
Author John then introduced us
to the signs Jesus himself
performed that testify to the
fact that he is the Messiah.
He told us how Jesus turned the
water into wine at the wedding
in Cana, and how Jesus claimed
authority to cleanse the temple
of the money changers.
John explored the nature of
belief and unbelief through the
conversation Jesus had with
Nicodemus, and there John
introduced the concept of being
born from above by the Spirit.
Last week, author John gave us
a second testimony from John the
Baptist.
When Prophet John's disciples
become jealous of the numbers
following Jesus, Prophet John
assures them this is not cause
for resentment, this is cause
for joy.
He again testifies that Jesus
is the Messiah and that he,
Prophet John, is content in the
role that God gave him.
Today we're going to look at
chapter four, and in this
chapter we're going to meet two
new converts, a Samaritan woman
and a Jewish Galilean man.
We're going to spend two weeks
on this chapter, and we're not
going to go through it
sequentially verse by verse.
I'm going to skip through it,
pulling out the themes.
So if you're not familiar with
the stories in this chapter, you
might want to pause the
podcast, read through it to
familiarize yourself, and then
come back and join us.
First, John gives us the
setting.
This is the first four verses
of the chapter.
Now when Jesus learned that the
Pharisees had heard that Jesus
was making and baptizing more
disciples than John, although
Jesus himself did not baptize,
but only his disciples, he left
Judea and departed again for
Galilee, and he had to pass
through Samaria.
If you look at a map of New
Testament Israel, Judea is in
the south, that's where
Jerusalem is, Galilee is in the
north, and in between them is
this region of Samaria.
Both Judea and Galilee were
Jewish territory, but Samaria
was not.
Jews who wanted to travel from
Judea to Galilee could either
bypass Samaria by crossing the
Jordan to the east and then
traveling along it up to
Galilee, or they could take the
more direct straight route
through Samaria.
Samaria was the region
surrounding the city of Samaria,
which included the tribal
regions of Manasseh and Ephraim.
The name Samaria is sometimes
synonymous with the entire
northern kingdom, you see that
in the Old Testament, but by the
time of Christ it referred to
this region above Judea and
below Galilee.
After Solomon's death, the
nation of Israel split into
civil war, ten tribes united
around one of Solomon's sons and
called themselves Israel, they
made Samaria their capital city.
Two southern tribes became
known as Judah and they kept
Jerusalem as their capital.
When the Assyrians defeated the
Northern Kingdom or Samaria in
722 BC, they deported many of
the Jews that were living there
to other lands, and at the same
time they imported many Gentiles
from other lands they
conquered, and this mixed race
became known as the Samaritans.
The Jews and Samaritans did not
get along for various religious
reasons and racial reasons.
By the time of Jesus there was
a history of bad blood between
them and the Jews considered the
Samaritans unclean.
Nevertheless, Jesus elected to
take the direct route through
Samaria.
We're going to go on to John
four nine.
So he came to a town of Samaria
called Sikar, near the field
that Jacob had given to his son
Joseph.
Jacob's well was there.
So Jesus, wearied as he was
from his journey, was sitting
beside the well.
It was about the sixth hour.
A woman from Samaria came to
draw water.
Jesus said to her, Give me a
drink, for his disciples had
gone away into the city to buy
food.
The Samaritan woman said to
him, How is it that you, a Jew,
ask for a drink from me, a woman
of Samaria?
For Jews had no dealings with
Samaritans.
Well this is the only place in
Scripture that mentions Jacob's
well.
However, Genesis thirty three
records that Jacob bought land
in this area and lived there for
a long time.
He would have required a well,
so it's perfectly reasonable
that he dug one.
Apparently the history of the
well was common knowledge at the
time, John doesn't remark on
it.
The sixth hour is noon.
Jesus remained at the well
while his disciples went into
the city to buy food.
Customarily travelers carried a
goatskin bag to collect water.
Jesus didn't appear to have one
with him, so it was probably
with the disciples.
Most women went in groups to
draw water from the well in the
cooler parts of the day.
The fact that this woman is
there alone in the heat of the
day signifies that she is
socially isolated.
When the Samaritan woman
approaches the well, Jesus
starts a conversation with her,
which is quite a striking thing
to do.
There are many reasons he
should have ignored her.
First, she's a Samaritan and
he's a Jew.
But second, she's not just a
Samaritan, she's a female
Samaritan, and third, she's not
just a female Samaritan, she is
a female Samaritan with a
reputation for immorality.
A fact he could have guessed
because she came alone to the
well at midday, but which he
reveals he knew anyway.
All three of those aspects set
her apart as racially different
from the official we're going to
meet at the other end of the
chapter and Nicodemus who we met
in the previous chapter.
The man we're going to meet
later is male, thoroughly
Jewish, and most likely morally
respectable.
This woman is at the other end
of the spectrum.
In four nine, she remarks on
the fact that Jesus speaks to
her.
She says, How is it that you, a
Jew, ask for a drink from me, a
woman of Samaria?
Thus we don't know, John tells
us the Jews had no dealings with
the Samaritans.
Jews were not allowed to share
eating utensils with Samaritans,
particularly glasses or cups,
because the Samaritans were
considered unclean.
Add to the fact that this woman
would be especially unclean
given her moral status, she is
amazed that he would take a
drink from any cup that she
handed to him.
Now that's our setting.
As I mentioned earlier, rather
than walk through this story
verse by verse like we would in
a detailed study, I want to
focus on the themes.
I see three themes in this
story and I want to look at them
one by one, so I will be
skipping through the rest of the
chapter to bring out each theme
in turn.
We're going to cover theme one
in this podcast, and then we'll
look at the last two themes in
the next podcast.
The first theme will not be a
surprise to you if you've been
listening to this series.
I have argued John's thesis is
only those who believe Jesus is
the Messiah will find eternal
life.
We believe based on testimony
and the work of the Spirit, and
we have seen that theme a lot in
the first three chapters.
We're going to see it here
again today.
This story focuses on how a
group of Samaritans come to
believe that Jesus is the
Messiah.
And what we're going to see
among the Samaritans is exactly
what we've been seeing up till
now and what we will continue to
see as we go through the
gospel.
There's evidence of a miracle,
there is testimony concerning
that evidence, then there is
belief that Jesus is the Messiah
because of the miracle and the
testimony.
The new twist in this story is
the believers involved are the
hated Samaritans.
As we'll continue to see, John
explores the dynamics of belief
and unbelief, especially among
the Jews.
John tells us many Jews refuse
to believe in Jesus.
He introduced that idea in the
opening prologue where he says
the Messiah came to his own and
his own did not receive him.
Last week in chapter three,
John said Jesus bears witness to
what he has seen and heard, and
yet no one receives his
testimony.
In contrast to the Jewish
leadership, we've so far seen
Nicodemus, and we will see an
official at the end of this
story.
We have now a story of
Samaritans in this town who come
to believe that he is the
Messiah.
And John is introducing the
fact here that Jesus came to
save the world, not just Jews,
but Gentiles as well.
And right from the start we see
there are Gentiles who believed
in him, and this will be very
central to John's purpose in
this gospel.
So let's look at this first
theme of testimony and belief.
It begins with Jesus starting a
conversation with this woman at
the well.
And as I mentioned, there are
good reasons why a Jewish rabbi
might choose not to speak to a
woman in this situation, but the
fact is Jesus is quite willing
to speak to her, and she
expresses her surprise that a
Jewish man would take a drink
from the hand of a Samaritan
woman.
So I'm going to pick up the
story in John chapter four,
verses ten through fourteen.
Jesus answered her, If you knew
the gift of God and who it is
that is saying to you, give me a
drink, you would have asked
him, and he would have given you
living water.
The woman said to him, Sir, you
have nothing to draw water
with, and the well is deep.
Where do you get that living
water?
Are you greater than our father
Jacob?
He gave us the well and drank
from it himself, as did his sons
and his livestock.
Jesus said to her, Everyone who
drinks of this water will be
thirsty again, but whoever
drinks of the water that I will
give him will never be thirsty
again.
The water that I will give him
will become in him a spring of
water welling up to eternal
life.
So Jesus responds to her
surprise and he says, Look, if
you knew who I am, not only
would you not be surprised that
I'm asking you for a drink, you
would be asking me for a drink
of living water.
Now for my studies this phrase
living water was a common one
and it had a very natural
understanding.
Living water was running water.
Water that bubbles up from a
spring is living water.
It's moving, it runs, it's
constantly in motion.
It's the kind of water that you
most want in an arid climate.
It's not a stagnant puddle,
it's not an enclosed pond that
is still and contained, instead,
it's fresh, living, running
water.
That's the normal meaning, but
it had a metaphorical meaning,
and we see this metaphorical
meaning in the Old Testament.
For example, Zechariah said, I
think it's in chapter 14, in the
last days living water will
flow out of Jerusalem.
And Jeremiah in chapter 17
describes God as a fountain of
living water.
And as we'll see, Jesus means
it metaphorically here as well.
But the phrase was common
enough that the woman might
easily have understood him to be
talking of literal running
water.
She might be thinking, okay,
well, I know what he's talking
about, but she's skeptical.
She's puzzling it out.
She's saying, Sir, you don't
have anything to draw water from
this well with.
How are you going to come up
with living fresh water?
Our father Jacob had to dig
deep to provide us with this
well.
Who do you think you are?
Are you going to do better than
Jacob?
Jesus answers her and he makes
the metaphorical nature of the
water he's talking about more
explicit.
He says, basically true, Jacob
gave you a nice well, but the
problem is drinking this water
doesn't solve the problem,
because a little while after you
drink the water, you're thirsty
again.
Now we have to think about the
significance of thirst.
In modern culture today, we
lose sight of the importance of
having fresh water, because
fresh water is usually typically
readily available.
I got a little refresher course
on the importance of water as I
was working on this podcast.
We developed a leak in the
pipes at our house and had to
turn the water off to our house
for a long time, and I can
attest to firsthand when you
don't have fresh water
available, it suddenly makes
your life miserable.
But for most of us, water is
just there whenever we want it.
But to continue our physical
lives, we have to eat, we have
to drink.
If we don't drink, if we don't
eat, we die.
Not only that, our body creates
in us this desire for food,
this desire to drink.
We get hungry, we get thirsty.
Hunger and thirst are symptoms
that we're needy.
They are symptoms that we need
something to keep us alive,
something that we don't have.
If we don't get food, if we
don't get water, we're going to
die.
Water then is very satisfying
to us.
It satisfies our thirst, it
calms our cravings, and in
short, it sustains us and keeps
us alive.
But normal water doesn't really
solve the problem.
It gives a temporary
satisfaction.
It does postpone dehydration
and death, but it doesn't give
us life like we're looking for.
It doesn't really solve the
problem of thirst.
We have to keep going back to
get more and more water to keep
our thirst at bay.
But the water Jesus provides
solves our problem.
If we drink the living water
that Jesus provides, it's as if
a well of water has sprung up
within us.
We don't get thirsty anymore
because we have this well of
living water inside.
We don't have to keep going
back to the well because we're
never thirsty again.
Now he's speaking
metaphorically here, and he's
using this picture of water and
thirst to represent eternal
life.
Jesus is giving this
metaphorical picture, believe in
me, and I will put a
metaphorical spring of water in
your soul that will satisfy you
with the kind of life you're
looking for, eternal life in the
kingdom of God.
Now she responds in fifteen
through nineteen.
The woman said to him, Sir,
give me this water so that I
will not be thirsty or have to
come here to draw water.
Jesus said to her, Go and call
your husband and come here.
The woman answered him, I have
no husband.
Jesus said to her, You are
right in saying I have no
husband, for you have had five
husbands, and the one you have
now is not your husband.
What you have said is true.
The woman said to him, Sir, I
perceive that you are a prophet.
So the woman has partially
understood Jesus.
She recognizes that he's
claiming to permanently solve
the problem of thirst, but
doesn't get that it's
metaphorical.
She says, Great, give me this
water so I don't have to come to
this well every day.
Rather than pursue the
metaphor, Jesus changes his
approach.
He says, Fine, you want some of
this living water, go and get
your husband.
I think he brings up her
husband because he's going to
show her that even though he has
never met her before, he knows
all about her.
Now you may remember Jesus did
the same thing with Nathaniel
earlier in the gospel.
Once again he's showing a
miraculous knowledge.
God has shown him what this
person is all about.
I think Jesus has two purposes
in mind.
He is setting up this miracle,
but he also wants her to repent.
To receive eternal life she
needs to come to terms with her
immoral lifestyle.
She needs to confront her sin
before she can repent and seek
God.
Not only is Jesus setting up
this miracle, he's raising an
issue that she has to confront.
He shows her that he knows her
whole story about her five
husbands, and that captures her
attention because he knows
something he has no way of
knowing.
He knows the messy details of
her life, which has not been a
model of respectability and
godliness, and she needs to
confront that before God.
So she says, You must be a
prophet.
Now in the next verses, Jesus
and the woman are going to have
this little conversation about
religious differences between
the Samaritans and the Jews, and
we're going to come back to
that.
That's another theme we're
going to talk about.
To stick with our first theme,
we're going to skip down to
verses twenty five through
twenty seven.
The woman said to him, I know
that the Messiah is coming, he
who is called Christ.
When he comes he will tell us
all things.
Jesus said to her, I who speak
to you am He.
Just then his disciples came
back.
They marveled that he was
talking with a woman, but no one
said, What do you seek or why
are you talking with her?
So the Samaritans only believed
in the first five books of the
Old Testament, but they did
believe in a Messiah.
They did believe that a
redeemer was coming.
And this woman is starting to
catch on.
She says, I know when the
Messiah comes, he's going to
explain all this stuff, kind of
like what you're doing here.
So who exactly am I talking to?
I think she's trying to flesh
out, you sound like a prophet.
Could you be the one we're
waiting for?
And what really strikes me in
this conversation is that Jesus
gives one of the very few direct
responses to this question that
he gives in any of the gospels.
Sometimes he hints that he's
the Messiah, sometimes he
implies it, sometimes he speaks
in riddles and parables.
The Pharisees say, Who are you?
And he says something like,
Well, it ought to be obvious who
I am.
But here the Samaritan woman
says the Messiah's coming, and
when he comes he's going to tell
us things kind of like you're
telling now.
I think she's hinting to him,
Are you the Messiah?
And he gives her this direct
answer, I who speak to you am
He.
That's me, I'm the Messiah
you've been waiting for.
I find it interesting that he
wouldn't give this kind of
direct answer to the Pharisees
in Judea, but he freely and
directly answers the Simoral
Samaritan woman in Samaria.
I suspect the reason he is so
free and direct with her is he
knew that she was ready to
believe in him while the
Pharisees in Judea were not.
Let's look at twenty eight and
twenty nine.
So the woman left her water jar
and went away into town and
said to the people, Come and see
a man who told me all that I
ever did.
Can this be the Christ?
And now I want to skip down
again to verses thirty nine
through forty two.
Many Samaritans from the town
believed in him because of the
woman's testimony.
He told me all that I ever did.
So when the Samaritans came to
him they asked him to stay with
them, and he stayed there two
days, and many more believed
because of his word.
They said to the woman, It is
no longer because of what you
said that we believe, for we
have heard for ourselves, and we
know that this is indeed the
Savior of the world.
These verses should have a kind
of familiar ring to you if
you've been listening to this
series so far.
The woman goes back to town and
she testifies.
Here's that word testify again.
She tells them this Jewish man
came and he knew all about me.
He knew all the stuff I've done
about my five husbands.
And she asks the question,
couldn't this man be the Christ?
Like I think this man is the
Christ.
I think that's the nature of
the question she asked.
What happens?
People hear her testimony and
many believe.
She tells the story of her
experience with Jesus, what she
has seen him say and do, and
people believe.
Then they come out to Jesus,
they ask him to stay.
He stays for two days and they
talk with him directly.
Now they're not talking to the
woman about what Jesus did,
they're talking to Jesus
directly, and many more believe
because of his teaching, because
of what he says and does.
And they say to her, now we
believe based on our own
experience.
It isn't just your testimony
anymore.
Now we believe because we've
seen for ourselves.
So to stick with our theme, I
want to bring in the next story
because it relates.
In the next podcast, we'll look
at the two other themes that
involve the woman at the well,
but skipping down to verses
forty three to forty five, we
have a little contrast.
We've just seen how readily the
Samaritans believe, and now we
go back to Galilee.
After the two days he departed
for Galilee, for Jesus himself
had testified that a prophet has
no honor in his hometown.
So when he came to Galilee, the
Galileans welcomed him, having
seen all that he had done in
Jerusalem at the feast, for they
too had gone to the feast.
So Jesus stays with the
Samaritans for two days and then
he heads for Capernaum in
Galilee, which functioned kind
of like his home base during his
Galilean ministry.
I think John includes this
story to contrast it both with
Nicodemus, who we saw in chapter
three, and the Samaritan woman.
All of them are interested in
Jesus.
They all come to him, but they
come to him very differently.
The two Jewish men are
interested in Jesus because he
has performed signs and miracles
and they recognize God is up to
something.
The Samaritan woman apparently
knows nothing about Jesus, but
she recognizes that he has
performed a miracle in her
presence and quickly calls him a
prophet and then comes to
believe that he's the Messiah.
As a quick aside, some people
point to these verses as an
example of an error in the
Bible.
It's not an error.
But the argument goes that
Jesus said a prophet has no
honor in his hometown, and the
very next verse says the
Galileans welcomed him, and
critics like to point to that
and say, see, John made a
mistake.
If a prophet truly has no honor
in his hometown, then why did
the Galileans welcome him?
Well, it doesn't take much
thinking to figure out that this
is not a problem.
There are at least two
explanations that make sense to
me.
One is Jesus goes to Capernaum,
but Nazareth was his hometown.
Why didn't he return to
Nazareth?
Because he had no honor there.
Perhaps they mocked him in
Nazareth and made it impossible
for him to rest or be taken
seriously.
Another explanation is that
John is speaking to the nature
of the welcome.
A prophet has no honor in his
hometown.
If you think of his hometown as
the entire region of Galilee,
then what's this welcome we see
in verse 45?
Well, John tells us these folks
saw signs and miracles.
They'd been at the feast in
Jerusalem too.
They had heard or maybe seen
what Jesus did, and now they're
excited.
So they're welcoming him back,
not because they think he's the
Messiah.
They aren't honoring him as the
Son of God.
They want to see what else can
he do?
They're interested in the
signs.
Maybe he'll heal someone, maybe
he'll improve their lives.
Unlike the Samaritan woman in
her village that just embraced
him as the Messiah without
seeing a major healing or a
major sign, at least as far as
we know, these people want a
sign.
In fact, Jesus comments on how
they want a sign in the next
conversation.
Let's look at forty six through
fifty four.
So he came again to Cana in
Galilee where he had made the
water wine, and at Capernaum
there was an official whose son
was ill.
When the man heard that Jesus
had come from Judea to Galilee,
he went to him and asked him to
come down and heal his son, for
he was at the point of death.
So Jesus said to him, Unless
you see signs and wonders you
will not believe.
The official said to him, Sir,
come down before my child dies.
Jesus said to him, Go, your son
will live.
The man believed the word that
Jesus spoke to him and went on
his way.
As he was going down his
servants met him and told him
that his son was recovering.
So he asked them the hour when
he began to get better, and they
said to him, Yesterday at the
seventh hour the fever left him.
The father knew that was the
hour when Jesus had said to him,
Your son will live, and he
himself believed and all of his
household.
This was now the second sign
that Jesus did when he had come
from Judea to Galilee.
So the nobleman hears Jesus has
returned to Capernaum, his son
is ill.
This official would have been a
man of wealth and status, he
has servants, he would have been
able to bring in the best
physicians to treat his son.
Apparently nothing has helped.
He grows desperate and he
thinks maybe the local healer
could be of some service.
So he asks Jesus to come to his
home, and Jesus seems to
recognize that this is all the
man wants.
He wants Jesus to solve his
earthly need.
He's not interested in learning
from the Messiah, like we just
saw the Samaritans.
He wants a sign, and Jesus
comments on that.
He says, You won't believe
unless you see a sign.
And this is a sharp contrast to
the Samaritans who believed
first based on the woman's
testimony alone before they had
any firsthand knowledge of
Jesus.
The nobleman begs, he says,
Please come before my child
dies.
He doesn't engage in anything
Jesus said about the signs and
wonders.
He doesn't want to get involved
in any discussions about
theology or belief in salvation.
He has an earthly need, and he
wants Jesus to solve that
earthly need.
Jesus has compassion on him and
tells him to go home because
his son lives.
And now we see belief.
Now the man believes and heads
for home.
While he's on his way, his
servants meet him with the happy
news that his son is recovered.
Now, if I had been that father,
I think my first reaction might
have been jumping for joy, but
instead this man starts asking
about the timing.
Now perhaps he did jump for joy
and John just doesn't tell us,
because the important point to
him is what happens next.
Once he confirms that his son
recovered at the hour when Jesus
spoke, now he really believes
he and his whole household.
I can't speak definitively, but
it seems to me that when the
man believed in four hundred
fifty, he trusted that what
Jesus said was true, but when he
believes in four fifty three,
now he believes that Jesus is
the Messiah that he claims to
be.
Why does his household believe?
John implies it's because of
the testimony of the official.
The nobleman reported what
Jesus said, and on the basis of
his testimony, the rest of his
household believes.
So here again John is exploring
the connection between
evidence, testimony, and belief.
The original disciples believed
because of John the Baptist's
testimony, and then later their
personal experience with Jesus.
The Samaritans believe Jesus is
the Messiah before they have
met him based on the woman's
testimony.
Then later they believe because
of their own personal
experience.
Then we get this story of the
Jewish official in Capernaum,
who I think is contrasted with
the Samaritan woman.
He approached Jesus because he
wanted earthly help.
He'd seen or maybe heard that
Jesus was doing signs and
miracles and he wanted a miracle
for himself.
Jesus comments that he won't
believe unless he sees signs and
wonders, and then Jesus gives
him the sign he seeks and he
believes.
And I think John means all this
to be significant to those of
us who come later.
John wrote this gospel to
people who only had the option
of coming to believe by
responding to the testimony of
those who saw and heard Jesus.
And that's our situation today.
We have to rely on the
testimony of people like Arthur
John who were there, who could
say, This is what I saw and
heard.
We don't have the opportunity
to see signs firsthand, but we
have their testimony.
And so we see a number of
people in these gospels
believing because of the
testimony of others when they
don't have any firsthand
knowledge.
And part of what we're to learn
is belief based on testimony is
appropriate.
We have people that we trust,
we listen to what they say, and
we believe because of it.
Then we can be further
reassured by the fact that those
who were there who then went
and talked to him confirmed what
the woman said.
They came to the same
conclusion.
We can be comforted that the
official questions his servants
and confirms that the healing
occurred when Jesus spoke.
We don't have that opportunity
today, but it confirms the
veracity of the testimony.
And all of this is to help us
answer the question, why should
I believe that Jesus is the
Messiah and expect to find
eternal life by believing in
him?
It's there to remind us that
Jesus is the Savior of the
world.
In this case, we've seen two
stories about a miracle,
testimony, and belief.
But the first story is about a
miracle, testimony, and belief
among the Samaritans.
John knows, I think, that the
church is made up of a lot of
people who are not Jews at the
time he's writing.
Many Jews have believed, but
many Jews have not believed.
He's looking back and
confirming this is how it was in
the beginning.
This is the way belief and
unbelief played itself out.
There was a greater response
among the Samaritans, among the
non-Jews than we see among the
Jews.
We shouldn't be surprised when
we see belief coming to fruition
among a group of people that
the Jews would have looked down
on as enemies.
Then we see the reluctance of
the Jewish people to believe
without a sign, which will be
contrasted with the way the
Jewish leadership rejects Jesus
despite all the signs.
Now we're going to stop there
today.
We're going to pick up the
story in the next podcast and
we'll look at the next two
themes.
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