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Krisan Marotta: Thank you for
joining me today for the
Wednesday in the Word Podcast.
I'm Krisan Marotta, and this is
the podcast where we explain
not only what scripture means
but how we figure it out.
Today we're going to be
discussing the question of what
does it mean to carry your
cross?
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carry cross.
Thanks for listening.
We're going to be looking at
Luke chapter 14 verses 25
through 35 today.
I have been wanting to teach
this passage for a long time.
I think this is one of those
passages we all need to
understand.
Jesus makes some pretty
explicit statements in this
passage about what it means to
be his disciple, and it seems to
me that's important for us to
know.
So let me read it and then
we'll dive in.
This is Luke chapter fourteen
starting in verse twenty five.
Now great crowds accompanied
him, that's Jesus, and he turned
and said to them, If anyone
comes to me and does not hate
his own father and mother and
wife and children and brothers
and sisters, yes, and even his
own life, he cannot be my
disciple.
Whoever does not bear his own
cross and come after me cannot
be my disciple.
For which of you desiring to
build a tower does not first sit
down and count the cost,
whether he has enough to
complete it.
Otherwise, when he has laid a
foundation and is not able to
finish, all who see it begin to
mock him, saying this man began
to build and was not able to
finish.
Or what king, going out to
encounter another king in war,
will not sit down first and
deliberate whether he is able
with ten thousand to meet him
who comes against him with
twenty thousand?
And if not, while the other is
yet a great way off, he sends a
delegation and asks for terms of
peace.
So therefore, any of you who
does not renounce all that he
has cannot be my disciple.
Salt is good, but if salt has
lost its taste, how shall its
saltiness be restored?
It is of no use either for the
soil or for the manure pile.
It is thrown away.
He who has ears to hear, let
him hear.
At first reading, it's obvious
that something important is at
stake in this passage.
Jesus is giving conditions for
being his disciple.
He's saying if you don't do
these things, you cannot be my
disciple.
And this passage can be pretty
terrifying because Jesus makes
some pretty hard claims.
He talks about hating your
parents and even your own life
and giving up all your
possessions.
Well what is that all about?
This passage is so demanding
that it has essentially created
a rift in Christian theology.
Most people take one of two
general positions.
One side says this passage
means pretty much what it says
on face value.
We can't come to Jesus, we
can't follow him and find
salvation unless we hate our
parents, take up our crosses,
and give all our possessions to
the poor.
Well that sounds so demanding
and difficult to understand that
there's another side that says
no, that position can't be
right.
We know we're justified by
faith alone, not by acts of
obedience.
When Jesus says you can't be my
disciple unless you do these
things, what must be true is
that being a disciple is not
necessary for being saved.
So Jesus is saying you can't be
my disciple unless you carry
your cross and hate your
parents, but do I have to be his
disciple?
This side of the debate would
say no, being a disciple is an
extra added thing on top of
being saved.
Well, I hope you can see that
understanding what Jesus says
here is important because you
and I have to do something with
his words.
We have to decide if being his
disciple is the same thing as
being a believer or not, and we
have to decide if we're required
to give up all our possessions
or not.
Jesus is making a very strong
statement and we can't ignore
it.
One of these positions must be
wrong.
Both of them can't be true.
Either Jesus meant for us to
take him literally or he didn't.
Either this is something a
follower of Jesus must do or it
isn't, and we have to take a
stand on it.
So are you going to say, okay,
I'm happy to be a follower of
Jesus and get saved and all, but
discipleship, well that's just
too much for me.
I'm not strong enough to be a
disciple.
I'll leave that to the super
Christians like the monks and
the nuns and the saints, and
I'll just have faith and get
saved and leave that
discipleship stuff to someone
else.
But what if Jesus didn't leave
us that option?
Maybe that's not even a
position we can take.
Is Jesus saying you can't come
to him at all unless you come to
him in this way?
Is what he's saying non
negotiable?
And if it is non negotiable,
then we have to come to terms
with it.
Well, I'll tell you right up
front that I think what Jesus is
saying is non negotiable.
It is something each of us who
claims to follow Jesus has to
take seriously.
I think to be saved is to be
his disciple, and to truly be
his disciple is to be saved.
Having said that, though, I
firmly believe in justification
by faith and faith alone.
And what we want to do today
then is figure out what does it
mean to carry your cross?
What exactly is Jesus asking us
to do in this passage?
How should we who claim to
follow him respond to these very
strong statements?
What is Jesus confronting us
with?
Well first let's tackle the
question of whether or not being
a disciple is the same thing as
being saved.
One of the ways people handle
this passage is to say you don't
have to be a disciple to be a
believer.
If we were to go through the
New Testament and look at the
way the New Testament uses this
word disciple, I think we'd find
there is no evidence for that
position.
The word disciple simply means
a student or one who learns, but
it's a particular kind of
student in that culture.
In Jesus' culture, teachers or
rabbis gathered students about
them, and the rabbis developed a
certain understanding of the
law, of God and of scripture,
and then they taught their
students from their theological
perspective.
So they gathered a group around
them who wanted to learn what
they thought, and those students
sought to understand everything
the rabbi was teaching, and
they were his students or his
disciples.
Jesus was a rabbi in this
sense.
He had a group of students who
lived with him, who followed him
around and made it their
mission to understand everything
he taught.
There was the immediate group
of the twelve who had a unique
and personal relationship with
Jesus, but there were many
others, both male and female,
who followed him around and
sought to learn what he was
teaching, and these followers
are called his disciples.
After Jesus left the earth, his
apostles were given the
assignment to go out and make
disciples.
Now the striking thing about
the apostles is they were
supposed to make disciples of
Jesus, not of themselves.
They were not to go out and
make disciples of Peter or Paul
or James or John, as would be
expected in their culture.
They were to go out and make
disciples of Jesus.
Lots of rabbis had disciples,
and they could reasonably have
expected to go out and become
the next rabbi and gather their
own disciples.
But Jesus made it clear that's
not what's supposed to happen.
They are to go out and make
disciples of Jesus, and that's
what they did.
Throughout the book of Acts,
believers are referred to as
disciples.
Perhaps the most obvious
example is Acts 1126, which
tells us, and in Antioch, the
disciples were first called
Christians.
So Luke tells us in Acts 11,
those who were listening to the
apostles, who were learning what
they taught and deciding to
follow Jesus, became known as
Christians because they follow
the Christ.
Anyone is a disciple who hears
the message and understands and
embraces it.
If you hear the message that
Jesus and His apostles teach and
you embrace it, you're a
disciple of Jesus.
You're one of his students, you
learn from him and seek to
understand everything he
teaches.
I thought about spending a lot
more time going through the New
Testament and looking at the use
of the word disciple, but I
decided that was something you
could do on your own.
And if you do, I think you'll
conclude that disciples are
believers.
Now I think the folks that say
you can be a believer but not be
a disciple, have it backwards.
I think it would be more
accurate to say you can be a
disciple and not be a believer.
That is, you can be seeking to
learn what Jesus taught, but
ultimately you might reject it
and deny it.
You might be a student of his
for a while and then decide,
wait a minute, no, this is not
for me.
If Jesus is gonna teach X, Y,
Z, then I don't want any part of
Him anymore.
So I would say you can be a
disciple and not be a believer,
but if you are a believer, you
are also a disciple.
And we see this in the Gospels.
Jesus will teach something, and
then the text will tell us that
some of his disciples abandoned
him and stopped following him.
For example, this comes from
John six.
In John six sixty it says, When
many of his disciples heard it,
they said, This is a hard
saying, who can listen to it?
And then skipping down to verse
sixty six, after this many of
his disciples turned back and no
longer walked with him.
So Jesus said to the twelve, Do
you want to go away as well?
Simon Peter answered him, Lord,
to whom shall we go?
You have the words of eternal
life, and we have believed and
have come to know that you are
the Holy One of God.
So John's giving us this
picture that Jesus had a lot of
disciples, but after hearing
what he had to say, only some of
them decided to stay and
continue following him.
Only some embraced his teaching
as true.
Let me give you another
example.
This is John 8, 31 and 32.
So Jesus said to the Jews who
had believed him, If you abide
in my word, you are truly my
disciples, and you will know the
truth, and the truth will set
you free.
Jesus is saying, if you want to
be my disciple, you have to
abide or remain in my word.
When I teach you and tell you
the truth, you have to embrace
it and continue to believe it.
You can't abandon me like those
other guys.
You hear it, you believe it,
and you remain, you continue to
believe it.
And if you do that, you will
know the truth and the truth
will set you free.
If you don't remain in my word,
if you hear it and decide
you're going to listen to some
different teacher and reject the
words of truth, then you're not
my disciple, you're not going
to know the truth, and the truth
will not set you free.
Now we can look at a lot more
passages, but I think those make
it pretty clear that to be a
believer is to be a disciple.
If you embrace and follow the
teachings of Jesus, then you are
a believer and you are also his
disciple.
So how are we going to solve
this passage?
Well, first, it's helpful to
know that Jesus uses similar
language in other contexts.
And these other passages in
their context can give us
explanation and clues as to what
Jesus has on his mind here.
If you've taken a Bible study
class, you've probably heard the
phrase, let scripture interpret
scripture.
Well, studying this passage is
going to give us an example of
using that principle.
Luke fourteen isn't the only
place that Jesus used this
language of carrying your cross.
We find similar passages in
Matthew and Mark, and we can
look at those places and study
those contexts to see if we can
learn what Jesus might be
thinking when he's speaking
here.
These passages give us a little
more detail and a little more
description, and we can bring
that back to Luke 14.
One of the places we find this
language is after the famous
scene where Jesus asks, Who do
people say I am?
And Peter says, You're the
Christ.
We find this in Mark eight,
Luke 9, and Matthew 16.
So in Mark 8 34, it says, And
calling the crowd to him with
his disciples, he said to them,
If anyone would come after me,
let him deny himself and take up
his cross and follow me.
And then also in Matthew
sixteen twenty four, then Jesus
told his disciples, If anyone
would come after me, let him
deny himself and take up his
cross and follow me.
So let me set the stage for
these verses.
These are the parallel
accounts.
Jesus asks his disciples who
the crowds think he is, and they
answer, Well, some people say
you're John the Baptist, others
say you're Elijah, and others
say you're one of the prophets
who is risen.
And then Jesus asks, Who do you
say I am?
And Peter says you're the
Christ.
Then Jesus starts to teach them
that he's going to be killed
and raised again on the third
day.
And in Mark's and Matthew's
account, Peter pulls Jesus
aside, saying, No, no, that
can't be right, you can't die,
and Jesus rebukes Peter and then
turns to his disciples in the
crowd and gives this talk.
And the talk that Jesus gives
is about how the world hates
him, and the world is going to
hate you too if you follow him,
and if you're going to follow
him, you're going to have to
reckon with the hatred of the
world.
So in each of the talks after
Peter's confession, Jesus tells
them three things in addition to
this language about taking up
your cross.
First, he tells them whoever
would save his life will lose
it, and whoever loses his life
will find it.
Second, he tells them what will
it profit them if they gain the
whole world and lose their
soul?
And third, he tells them
whoever is ashamed of him and
his words, Jesus will be ashamed
of him when he comes into his
glory.
And we're going to talk more
about what those mean as we go
through our passage.
For now I want to give you the
big picture because all these
contexts contain the same
themes.
The other context where we find
this language is in Matthew
ten, and this is when Jesus is
sending out the twelve.
In Matthew ten thirty eight he
says, And whoever does not take
his cross and follow me is not
worthy of me.
So let me set the context for
this verse and you'll notice we
have very similar themes to the
talk after Peter's confession.
Jesus is sending the twelve out
on a missionary journey, and he
tells them to go to the house
of Israel and proclaim that the
kingdom of God is at hand.
He gives them this talk then to
prepare them for the journey.
He tells them they're going to
be arrested and flogged, that
they'll be dragged before
governors and kings, that their
own families may betray them and
that they will be hated because
they are his followers.
He tells them he didn't come to
bring peace, but discord.
His word is divisive.
He came to set man against
father and daughter against
mother.
He also tells them not to be
anxious about what they will say
before the courts and not to
fear those who can only kill
their body, rather they should
fear the one who can destroy
both body and soul.
And Jesus says whoever
acknowledges him he will
acknowledge before God, and
whoever denies him, he will
deny, which is very similar to
the language about being ashamed
that we see in the talk after
Peter's confession.
He also says whoever finds his
life will lose it, and whoever
loses it for his sake will find
it.
Again, very similar language to
what we see in Luke and in
these other passages.
Essentially, Jesus tells them,
People are going to hate you
because you're my follower.
You're going out there as my
representatives, and you're
gonna find a lot of people don't
like me, and you're also gonna
find they don't like you either.
Now in both the talks after
Peter's confession and the talk
before sending out the twelve,
Jesus is essentially saying,
What are you going to do when
the world responds to you the
way the world responds to me?
How are you, my disciples,
going to respond when the world
hates you because you follow me?
What are you gonna do when they
mock and scoff and call you a
fool?
What are you going to do when
they hate you and persecute you
and reject you and seek to kill
you the way they do me?
Because that's what's gonna
happen.
You may even be asked to lose
your life because you follow me.
If your father or mother
rejects me and threatens to
disown you for following me, you
have to make a choice, and the
wise choice is to follow me.
You're going to be put in a
spotlight, put on trial where
the world demands to know whose
side are you on, and at that
spot when they're rejecting you
and threatening your life and
demanding to know if you follow
me or not, at that spot what you
need to say is I'm on Jesus'
side.
Don't let the fear of what they
might do to you keep you from
confessing me.
Because if you deny me Jesus,
later, when it's time for me,
Jesus, to say whether or not I'm
on your side, I may say sorry I
don't know you.
Essentially in these contexts,
Jesus teaches them that they
have to make a choice about what
their life is all about and
where life is to be found.
And here's what I mean by that.
By following Jesus, I gain the
rejection of the world around
me.
And that means in this life I
stand to lose in some
significant ways.
I stand to lose the approval
and love and security of my
family and friends.
I stand to lose money and
career and prestige.
I stand to lose position in the
community.
I stand to lose the affection
of my family, I might be
arrested and lose my freedom, I
might be beaten and lose my
health or even my very life.
There are all kinds of ways we
might lose because we follow
Jesus.
And the question when we're
facing that choice is what do I
want in the end?
What is most important to me?
Where do I think I'm going to
find life and find fulfillment?
If I think that I will find
life in all the good things of
this world here and now, if
that's my goal, then it's pretty
stupid to follow Jesus because
following Jesus is going to cost
me.
And I think Jesus is trying to
get his disciples to see that
they have to make this choice.
He's saying if you're going to
follow me, you may very well end
up losing something in this
world.
And the question is, do you
recognize that whatever it is
you lose, even if it's your
life, it's nothing in comparison
to what you gain by the gospel.
What you're gaining out of
following Jesus is incomparably
better than what you're losing
even if you lose your life.
So following Jesus is the wise
choice, and you need to
recognize that as you follow
Jesus, you're going to be forced
to make this choice about whose
side you're on.
That's what those passages are
teaching, and I think
understanding that helps us to
understand Luke fourteen because
essentially he's making the
same point.
Let's go back and look at Luke
fourteen then.
Let's start with twenty five
and twenty six.
Now great crowds accompanied
him, and he turned and said to
them, If anyone comes to me and
does not hate his own father and
mother, and wife and children,
and brothers and sisters, yes,
and even his own life, he cannot
be my disciple.
Jesus knows he's saying
something provocative and
shocking here.
He's using very strong language
to get their attention.
The only immediate context Luke
gives us is that large crowds
are following him.
Some of them probably genuinely
believe that Jesus is the
Messiah, the Christ, he is who
he says he is, but some of them
are probably there for the
miracles, the free bread, and
the show.
So Jesus is confronting them
with this choice.
Why are you following me?
Are you willing to follow me
when it costs you?
Are you just here for the fun,
the show, the healing, and the
miracles?
Jesus says something similar
when he sends out the twelve,
but he gives a little more
detail, so I want to look at
that.
This is Matthew ten.
I'm going to read verses thirty
four through thirty eight.
Do not think I have come to
bring peace to the earth.
I did not come to bring peace
but a sword, for I have come to
set a man against his father and
a daughter against her mother,
and a daughter in law against
her mother in law, and a
person's enemies will be those
of his own household.
Whoever loves father or mother
more than me is not worthy of
me, and whoever loves son or
daughter more than me is not
worthy of me, and whoever does
not take his cross and follow me
is not worthy of me.
Jesus is picturing a scenario
in which his gospel comes into
the fabric of a family and
divides it.
Some of the members of the
family accept his message and
others reject it.
And in this context, that's
what he means by he didn't come
to bring peace.
Now there's another sense in
which he ultimately did come to
bring peace in the sense of
solving the problem of sin in
the world and reconciling us to
God, but that's not our context
here.
Here he's talking about a
family hearing the gospel and
turning against each other
because some embrace the message
and some reject it.
And those who reject Jesus are
very likely to also reject their
own family members who have
accepted him.
Those in the family who have
accepted the gospel are then
faced with a hard choice.
Whose side are you on?
Jesus or your family?
If it comes down to that
choice, you have to be prepared
to choose Jesus.
Ultimately, you have to decide
where your loyalty lies, where
you expect to find life, and
what is most important to you.
And Jesus is saying when you
face that choice, you need to be
prepared to follow me.
Back in Luke fourteen he says,
this is verse twenty six, if
anyone comes to me and does not
hate his own father and mother
and wife and children and
brothers and sisters, yes, and
even his own life, he cannot be
my disciple.
So we talked about the family
divide.
Now let's look at this phrase
and even his own life.
Again, we see this idea of
losing your life in the other
passages.
This is Matthew sixteen, twenty
four through twenty six.
Then Jesus told his disciples,
If anyone would come after me,
let him deny himself and take up
his cross and follow me, for
whoever would save his life will
lose it, but whoever loses his
life for my sake will find it.
For what will it profit a man
if he gains the whole world and
forfeits his soul?
Or what shall a man give in
return for his soul?
So what's he saying here?
The one who says I'm going to
find my fulfillment here and now
in this world.
I'm going to take care of me
first, I'm going to build my own
little worldly fiefdom, and
that's where I'll find life
right here and now in this
world.
That person will lose his life.
If you're seeking to find life
and fulfillment in the world,
you will lose it all in the end,
no matter how much you gain
right now, because ultimately
God will judge and destroy those
who have chosen the world and
rejected him.
But the one who looks at what
he has in this life and says,
No, this isn't it.
This is not what I'm going to
take my stand on.
I need a savior.
I'm going to stand with Jesus
even if they kill me.
I'm going to stand with Jesus
even if my family hates me.
That person, even if he dies in
this life, will find eternal
life in the kingdom of God.
So if you seek to find life in
the kingdom of God, you will
find eternal life even if you
lose your life in this world.
I think that helps us
understand Jesus' statement in
Luke 14, 26 about hating your
family members and even hating
your own life.
When he says hating your family
members and hating your own
life, he's using this striking
phrase to get our attention.
He doesn't mean you have to be
hostile and vicious toward your
family members or you have to
try to hurt yourself.
By hate and love, he means the
thing that you love is the thing
that you're going to hold on
to.
And the thing that you hate is
the thing that you're going to
let go of.
That's the imagery he's using.
So what are you going to hang
on to?
Are you going to going to hang
on to your family and your life
in this world and let go of
Jesus?
Or are you going to let go of
your life in this world and your
family and hang on to Jesus?
So he's talking about what you
love and what you hate in the
sense of what do you value?
What do you worship?
Where are you going to place
your loyalties when you have to
make a choice?
If my sister won't follow me in
this journey of faith and she
threatens to disown me unless I
deny Jesus, I need to be willing
to follow Jesus and lose my
sister.
I need to be willing to say to
my sister, I'm sorry, but the
gospel is just too important.
I'm staking my life on the
gospel.
Now to my sister, that may feel
like I'm treating her
hatefully, and she may call me
foolish and complain about the
way I'm treating her.
I'm not acting hatefully, but
it may feel that way to my
family members.
I'm not acting unlovingly or
ungraciously or treating them
without compassion.
I am standing firm in the
gospel and they are going to
find that offensive.
Now for most of us, family is a
place of security.
When a family works well, being
within the acceptance of a
family group is one of the most
secure places we humans can
find.
And Jesus is saying, I'm asking
you for a loyalty that goes
beyond that family group.
I'm offering you a security
that is better than the security
of a close family.
Ultimately, the approval of
Jesus has to mean more to me
than the approval of my family.
So Jesus is saying, You can't
be my disciple and put your
family over me.
You can't be my disciple and
love your family more than me.
If you're going to keep
following me, when your family
rejects you, you need to be
willing to take it.
Now going on, this is Luke
fourteen, twenty five through
twenty seven.
Again, now great crowds
accompanied him, and he turned
and said to them, If anyone
comes to me and does not hate
his own father and mother, and
wife and children and brothers
and sisters, and yes, even his
own life he cannot be my
disciple, whoever does not bear
his own cross and come after me
cannot be my disciple.
So there's the context for this
statement about bearing your
cross.
So let's think about this idea
of bearing your cross or
carrying your cross in this
context.
A cross is not something you
use to commit suicide.
A cross is something that
somebody else nails you to.
The cross was an instrument of
execution.
You can't commit suicide with a
cross.
Now Jesus had not yet faced the
cross, but his disciples all
knew what a cross was.
If the Romans found you guilty
of a crime that was worthy of
capital punishment, they would
nail you to a cross and leave
you there until you died.
And all the crowds following
Jesus were familiar with the
scene of a condemned criminal
carrying his cross out to the
place of his execution.
Now remember, in all the
contexts where we see this
language about carrying your
cross, the context is the world
is gonna hate you for following
me.
They're gonna make you suffer
for being my disciple.
As my disciple, the world,
including your own family
members, is going to hate you
just like they hated me and
you're going to have to make a
choice.
So it seems to me that carrying
your cross is having the
willingness to accept the
disapproval and rejection of the
world.
He's saying, Do you want to be
my disciple?
Well, as my disciple, you have
to be willing to follow me no
matter what, even if it means
you die.
But don't be afraid of that.
Don't fear those who can kill
the body.
In comparison to God who can
send you into hell, what's the
big deal about dying?
Whose disapproval matters more,
God's disapproval or the
world's?
What can the world do to you in
comparison to what God can do?
They might be able to take your
life, but God can destroy your
soul.
The choice to take up your
cross is a metaphorical way of
talking about this choice over
where do we expect to find life?
Are we going to focus our time,
our goals, our energy, our
devotion on the here and now?
Are we going to stake our life
on the pursuit of fame and
fortune, prestige, romance,
health, wealth, and the approval
of the world?
Are we going to go for the
gusto, look out for number one,
and strive to get all the
goodies this world has to offer?
Or are we going to stake our
claim on the gospel and love God
with all our heart and love our
neighbor as ourselves?
Are we going to let God tell us
what is true, what is wise,
what is valuable?
And are we going to believe the
teachings of Jesus even if it
means we lose in this life?
Are we willing to value God's
approval and following Jesus
more than anything else?
That's the choice Jesus is
confronting them with in the
passage.
If your family rejects you for
following Jesus, will you accept
that rejection and continue to
follow him?
If the government condemns you
to death, will you refuse to
deny Christ?
If the world rejects you
because you follow Jesus, will
you endure it?
The prophetic works of the Old
Testament I think help us
understand the story of history,
and they prepare us for the
fact that as the end time nears,
it's going to look like the
cause of God is hopeless and
faithfulness is going to seem
foolish.
So the prophetic works present
the gospel by asking the
question, where are you going to
turn when that kind of disaster
strikes?
And I think that's the same
question Jesus is asking here.
Are you prepared for the time
when following Jesus is going to
cost you?
And whatever the cost is, are
you willing to pay it?
Now let's look at the parables
he tells.
This is Luke fourteen, starting
in twenty eight through thirty
three.
For which of you desiring to
build a tower does not first sit
down and count the cost whether
he has enough to complete it?
Otherwise, when he has laid a
foundation and is not able to
finish, all who see it begin to
mock him, saying this man began
to build and was not able to
finish.
Or what king going out to
encounter another king in war
will not sit down first and
deliberate whether he is able
with ten thousand to meet him
who comes against him with
twenty thousand?
And if not, while the other is
yet a great way off, he sends a
delegation and asks for terms of
peace.
So therefore, any of you who
does not renounce all that he
has cannot be my disciple.
One of the common ways of
understanding these parables is
that Jesus is saying you need to
understand right off the bat
how difficult it's going to be
to be my disciple.
You don't want to start into
being my disciple and then
discover that you don't have
what it takes because that would
be embarrassing and
humiliating.
So you need to know right away
that it's tough.
Sit down, decide if you have
what it takes, and if you don't
have what it takes, then you
need to give up before you
start.
That makes no sense to me.
That does not fit with the rest
of Scripture.
Given everything else scripture
teaches, it's just impossible
for me to imagine that Jesus
would say that kind of thing.
Because for one thing, we don't
have what it takes.
That's a given.
Who among us left to ourselves,
apart from the work of the
Spirit of God in our lives, has
what it takes to be a disciple
of Jesus?
None of us.
None of us left to ourselves
has what it takes to go the
distance.
Especially in this context, it
seems to me that there's another
way to think about these
parables and it makes a lot more
sense.
Look again at the story of the
king, because I think it's
easier to see the dynamic in
that parable.
The king sits down and realizes
he can't win this battle, so he
very wisely sues for peace.
He gives up.
And the story seems to be
commending the king.
What fool would enter a battle
he knows he's going to lose?
But the king is wise.
He refuses to enter the battle
he knows he's going to lose.
Before the other army, the
other side even gets there, he
sends off a delegation and asks
for peace.
Likewise, the one who builds
the tower wisely stops before he
starts, because he knows before
he begins that he doesn't have
the resources to finish it.
So the builder is wise not to
start construction on his own,
and the king is wise to give up
and seek terms of surrender
before the other army arrives.
I think that's the analogy to
our situation with God.
The day is coming when we're
going to face judgment.
The day is coming when we will
have to come to terms with God
and give an account for
ourselves.
And what we need to do now is
come to terms with him before he
gets here.
When Jesus returns, it's going
to be too late.
If I think that someday I'm
going to stand before the throne
of God and win, I'm crazy.
If I think I'm going to argue
with Jesus and convince him that
I'm really a great person
deserving of heaven on my own,
then I'm a fool.
I'm going to lose that battle.
Like the king, I need to go,
I'm going to lose.
I've got to seek peace now.
Like the builder, I need to say
I'm not even going to start
attempting this on my own.
I need a plan B.
It is better to give up now and
recognize I do not have what it
takes and come to terms with
Jesus now.
In other words, I need to
consider the cost of
discipleship and say, it's worth
it.
Because this is a battle I will
lose, and the way to win is to
follow Jesus.
I don't have what it takes on
my own, so I'm going to throw my
lot in with the gospel.
I want to be the guy who looks
in his wallet and says, I don't
have the money to complete the
project.
I cannot make myself holy.
I cannot solve the problem of
my sin.
I want to be the king that
says, I'm going to lose this
battle.
What are my other options?
I need to recognize when I
stand before the judgment seat
of God, I will be guilty.
I will be found guilty, and I
need to figure out what my
options are.
And the gospel is my other
option.
My best and wisest choice is to
throw myself on the mercy of
God and the cross of Christ.
So the advice Jesus is giving
is you want to be like these
guys.
They're wise.
Assess your situation
realistically now and choose to
follow Jesus.
That's the wise choice.
Then he concludes in
thirty-four and thirty five,
therefore salt is good, but if
even salt has become tasteless,
with what will it be seasoned?
It is useless either for the
soil or for the manure pile, it
is thrown out.
He who has ears to hear, let
him hear.
Now for us, salt doesn't become
unsalty.
Sodium chloride remains sodium
chloride no matter how long it's
sitting in the cupboard.
According to some of the
commentaries I checked, at the
time they didn't have pure salt.
Salt was dug out of the ground
and was typically sodium
chloride, but it was mixed with
these other inert materials.
And over time that mixed
material could leach the sodium
chloride out so that it no
longer had a salty flavor.
So if your salt no longer
tastes salty, it can't season
anything.
It's not good for the field or
the dung pile.
And I suspect he means
something like we would call
composting today, and that
what's left needs a little bit
of salt to be useful for
compost, but if there's no salt
left at all, it's useless.
It's not even as good as a
fertilizer.
Now I don't know if that's
chemically correct or not, but
in either case, the point Jesus
does seem to be making is that
salt has three uses.
It can be seasoning, it can be
fertilizer, or it can be
compost.
And if there's no salt left,
then it's not good for anything.
It's just worthless and to be
thrown out.
In this context, I think this
is just another way of making
the same point we've been
talking about up to here.
So Jesus is turning to the
crowds and he's saying, It's
good that you're following me,
it's good that you're listening
to my teaching, but you're
worthless if you don't actually
take up your cross and become my
disciple.
You need to make the choice to
believe.
If you don't believe and
embrace the gospel, then you're
not my disciple and you're
worthless.
Following and listening isn't
enough.
You have to embrace and believe
what I'm teaching you.
Now to close, I want to spend a
little bit more time on what
Jesus says in 1433.
So therefore, any of you who
does not renounce all that he
has cannot become my disciple.
Again, we want to keep this
verse in context.
I think people mistakenly
equate this verse with the
conversation recorded in Luke
18, where Jesus is talking to
the rich young ruler.
That man asks Jesus, what must
he do to inherit eternal life?
And as part of their
conversation, Jesus tells the
rich young man to sell
everything he has and give it to
the poor and follow him.
And I would argue that Luke 18,
that's Luke 18, 22, in that
verse Jesus is giving a specific
piece of advice given to a
specific man who essentially
loved his money more than
anything else in the world.
And Jesus is confronting him
with the fact that he loves
money more than he cares about
following Jesus and gaining
eternal life.
I don't believe that the Bible
teaches that believers must be
poor and that it's a sin to be
rich.
I don't believe that the Bible
teaches that you must sell
everything you have to become a
disciple of Jesus.
That's not the picture we see
when we look at the New
Testament.
That's not the way the apostles
apply the words of Jesus on
this issue.
There are many examples of
believers working and possessing
a lot of wealth.
Paul tells the Thessalonians
that he wants them to work and
make enough money so that they
have extra to share with those
who are in trouble.
Well, that implies they have to
have extra.
They have to have some measure
of wealth.
Now I don't want to go too far
down that path because that
would be a whole nother talk.
But I just want to say Jesus is
not saying, I want you to sell
everything you have and possess
nothing.
And if you keep back one family
heirloom, then you can't follow
me.
Because that's not the context.
That's not what he's been
saying throughout this talk.
In our context, I actually
think he means something more
radical than selling your
possessions.
He has said you have to hate
your family members.
You have to hate even your own
life.
You have to be willing to carry
your cross to your day of
execution.
You have to realize that you
will lose at the judgment seat
of God, and so therefore be
willing to say goodbye to your
old life to gain life in the
kingdom of God.
And this is his conclusion.
He says, Any one of you who
does not renounce all that he
has cannot be my disciple.
Literally, this is something
like say goodbye to all that is
yours.
And I think in this context,
it's what he's been saying about
hating your father and mother,
about hating your own life.
It's not that you're not
allowed to have nice clothes and
a house while living on the
earth.
It's I can't put that stuff
ahead of Jesus.
I have to say goodbye to my
life in the sense of Jesus comes
first.
I have to say goodbye to the
security of my family and be
willing to follow Jesus if I'm
forced to make that choice.
I have to be willing to forgo
the respect of my peers or
prestige or even my own life, if
it that's the choice that's
presented me, follow Jesus or
lose that, I have to be willing
to renounce that to follow
Jesus.
So in this context, he's
basically been saying if there's
anything in your life that's
more important than following
Jesus, then you can't be his
disciple.
One of the first lessons of the
gospel is that this is where
you find eternal life.
The gospel is about something
better than all that this world
has to offer.
Believing the gospel presents
me with a truth I have to
embrace.
It tells me not only that I'm a
sinner and that I will only be
saved and find eternal life
through the blood of Jesus, it
also tells me true life is not
to be found in this world.
This world is flawed and marred
by sin and death and futility,
and true life, life as it was
meant to be, is going to be
found in the kingdom of God.
So the gospel presents me with
this choice.
Do I believe that or not?
Do I want what the gospel
promises or do I want something
else more?
So I don't think Jesus is
saying there's some strict test
you have to pass in order to
ensure that you're saved.
He's laying out the very
logical choice you have to make
as soon as you start considering
the gospel.
The gospel is at odds with the
rest of the philosophies and
views of this world.
If you embrace and believe the
gospel, you're going to be
different than most of the world
around you.
And because you're different,
the world is going to hate you
and reject you.
And Jesus is saying, what are
you going to do when that
rejection comes?
If you want to follow me, you
have to endure it.
If you want to follow me, you
have to give up all that is
yours in this world and be
willing to lose it to follow me.
It's going to cost you to
follow Jesus.
It could cost you the affection
of your family, it could cost
you your career, it could cost
you the respect and approval of
your peers, it could cost you
your very life.
Is that a cross you're willing
to carry?
So I think that's what he's
saying here.
In order to follow Jesus, I
have to be willing to renounce
what is mine in this world in
the sense that whenever there's
a choice to be made between
following Jesus and keeping
something in the world, I let go
of the thing in the world and
hold on to following Jesus.
I have to want what Jesus
offers more than what this world
offers.
And that choice is at the heart
of what it means to carry your
cross and to be his disciple.
And that theme comes up on
almost every page of the New
Testament.
We confront this choice in big
ways and in small ways every
single day.
Every time I have to decide
what to say, what not to say,
when to speak, how to speak, how
to act, how to respond, I'm
making this kind of choice to
one degree or another.
The gospel confronts us with
some very important truths, and
our lives today are about
confronting and applying those
truths.
Now because we're sinners, we
act on those truths foolishly
and imperfectly.
And one of the difficulties in
this passage is that Jesus is
speaking very categorically.
He's using stark, all or
nothing kind of language to make
his point.
But let's think about what he's
saying.
And I think the best way to
illustrate this is with the
apostle Peter.
I find this very helpful in
sorting this stuff out because
of the example Peter gives us.
In Matthew ten, thirty-two and
thirty three, Jesus says, right
before he talks about carrying
your cross, he says this,
everyone therefore who shall
confess me before men, I will
also confess him before my
Father who is in heaven.
But whoever shall deny me
before men, I will also deny him
before.
Before my Father who is in
heaven.
Now, if you've read the
gospels, you know that in a key
and crucial moment, Peter denied
that he knew Jesus.
Jesus had been betrayed by
Judas, Jesus had been arrested
and hauled before a Jewish
court, and the events leading to
his crucifixion were set in
motion.
Here's the time to stand up and
be counted.
If there's any time for the
followers of Jesus to take a
stand and say, I'm with him,
it's now as Jesus is staring
down the cross.
And what does Peter do?
Peter denies that he even knew
Jesus three times.
So I would argue that what
Peter has done in principle is
exactly what Jesus says.
If you do that, I'm gonna deny
you before the Father.
And yet we know that Jesus did
not deny Peter before the
Father.
After the resurrection, Jesus
meets Peter face to face and
forgives him and commissions him
to carry the gospel to the
world.
The fact that Peter actually
failed to confess Jesus before
men, and actually denied Jesus
before men was evidence that
Peter was fearful and weak and
sinful at that moment.
But it was only a step on his
journey of faith.
Ultimately, we know that Peter
did confess Jesus before men.
Ultimately, Peter was jailed
and beaten and eventually
crucified upside down rather
than deny Jesus.
So although Jesus is speaking
in very strong language, he does
not mean one strike and you're
out.
It is not the case that
believers will perfectly and
courageously always follow Jesus
and heroically endure
persecution and rejection
without fear or any misstep at
all.
Sometimes we will fail and
sometimes we won't.
And it's all part of this
journey of faith.
But ultimately, over the course
of our life, we will choose to
follow Him and our lives will
show it.
Just like Peters did.
Jesus is saying the path goes
that way and it's gonna be a
struggle.
I can't promise you a nice and
easy life.
In fact, I can promise you it's
gonna cost you.
But there's only one path, and
it's a tough one.
It's a narrow gate, and not
many people find it, and
everyone who is not on the path
has the potential to become your
enemy.
So what are you gonna do with
that?
To be my disciple means that's
a choice you have to make.
To carry your cross is to be
willing to choose to follow
Jesus no matter what.
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