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Speaker: Thank you for
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Word podcast.
I'm Krisan Marotta.
Today, David John Marata is
speaking on Psalm 109.
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Psalm 109.
Thanks again for listening.
Speaker 1: If you have your
Bibles open to Psalm 109, Psalm
109 is, at least for me, the
hardest psalm I've studied and
looked at to understand.
And we're going to look at it
today.
And we don't have a lot of
time, and there's a lot of
interpretive questions that need
to be answered.
So I'm going to try to go over
as much of the interpretive
questions as possible quickly
and then get on so that we can
take a look at some of the
application of the psalm.
Let me read it.
Psalm 109.
In my Bible, I'm using the
Numerican Standard.
The subtitle is Vengeance
Invoked Upon Adversaries.
So this psalm is sometimes
called one of the vengeance
psalms, and you'll see why as we
go.
O God of my praise, do not be
silent, for they have opened the
wicked and deceitful mouth
against me.
They have spoken against me
with a lying tongue.
They have also surrounded me
with words of hatred, and fought
against me without cause.
In return for my love they act
as my accusers, but I am in
prayer.
Thus they have repaid me evil
for good, and hatred for my
love.
Appoint a wicked man over him,
and let an accuser stand at his
right hand.
When he is judged, let him come
forth guilty, let his prayer
become sin, let his days be few,
let another his ought take his
office, let his children be
fatherless, and his wife a
widow, let his children wander
about and beg, let them seek
sustenance far from their ruined
homes, let the creditor seize
all that he has, and let
strangers plunder the product of
his labor.
Let there be none to extend
loving kindness to him, nor any
to be gracious to his fatherless
children, let his posterity be
cut off.
In a following generation let
their name be blotted out.
Let the iniquity of his fathers
be remembered before the Lord,
and do not let the sin of his
mother be blotted out.
Let them be before the Lord
continually, that he may cut off
their memory from the earth,
because he did not remember to
show loving kindness, but
persecuted the afflicted and
needy man, and the despondent in
heart to put them to death.
Also he loved cursing, so it
came to him, and he did not
delight in blessing, so it was
far from him, but he clothed
himself with cursing as as with
his garment, and he entered into
his b and it entered into his
body like water, and like oil
into his bones.
Let it be to him as a garment
with which he covers himself,
and for a belt with which he
constantly girds himself.
Let this be the reward of my
accusers from the Lord, and of
those who speak evil against my
soul.
But thou, O God, the Lord, deal
kindly with me for thy name's
sake, because thy loving
kindness is good, deliver me,
for I am afflicted and needy,
and my heart is wounded within
me.
I am passing like a shadow when
it lengthens, I am shaken off
like the locusts, my knees are
weak from fasting, and my flesh
has grown lean with without
fatness.
I also have become a repo a
reproach to them, when they see
me they wag their head.
Help me, O Lord my God, save me
according to thy loving
kindness, and let them know that
this is thy hand, that thou
Lord hast done it.
Let them curse, but thou do
bless.
When they arise they shall be
ashamed, but thy servant shall
be glad.
Let my accusers be clothed with
dishonor, and let them cover
themselves with their own shame
as with a robe.
With my mouth I will give
thanks abundantly to the Lord,
and in the midst of many I will
praise him, for he stands at the
right hand of the needy, to
save him from those who judge
his soul.
Okay.
Um clearly this has some of the
most vicious language in the
Bible you could possibly find.
I mean, just just taking a look
at verses eight and nine, let
his days be few, let another
take his office, let his
children be fatherless, and his
wife a widow, is pretty graphic
cursing, if you will, to find in
the Bible.
To make it worse, put your
finger in Psalm 109 and turn
over to Acts 2, because this is
uh quoted by Peter in Acts 2.
Acts 2, verses 16 through 20.
No, I'm sorry, Acts 1.
Yeah, I've got my chapter
wrong.
Acts 1, 16 through 20.
Brethren, the scripture had to
be fulfilled, which the Holy
Spirit foretold by the mouth of
David concerning Judas.
So Peter says this is uh a
psalm written by David
prophetically about Judas, who
became a guide to those who
arrested Jesus, for he was
counted among us and received
his portion in this ministry.
Now this man acquired a field
with the price of his
wickedness, and falling headlong
he burst open in the middle,
and his all his bowels gushed
out.
And it became known to all who
were living in Jerusalem, so
that in their own language that
field was called Hazakaldamah,
that is the field of blood.
For it is written in the book
of Psalms, let his homestead be
made desolate, let no man dwell
in it, and his office let
another man take, which is
quoting from our Psalm.
So Psalm 6109 is sometimes
called Judas' Psalm in the
Middle Ages because it's quoted
here as being about Judas.
So this is sort of a a
multiple, multiply difficult
Psalm.
First of all, you have the
vengeance aspect, which seems
bizarre.
Second, you have Judas as being
supposedly the one this psalm
is about.
And then there are some
structural problems with the
Psalm.
If you look at verses 1 through
5, the enemies are plural.
And if you look at verses 6
through 20, the enemies are
singular.
Then 21 through 24, they're not
really mentioned, but back in
25, the enemies are plural
again.
Through 25 through the end of
the Psalm.
So again, you have sort of this
problem about what is the
occasion for this psalm, what's
going on, what you know, if is
this about Judas?
If so, why is he dropping
between singular and plural?
And um and the psalm says
things like in verse 5, Thus
they repaid me evil for good and
hatred for my love, it doesn't
sound like a loving psalm.
So if the psalmist is
complaining about the fact that
this is uh a loving psalm, or th
this is this is uh they they
didn't like his love, I wouldn't
like his love either if this
psalm is is any indication of
it.
Okay, so just to sort of get
you in the spirit of why there
are such interpretive problems
with the psalm and and why you
have to find something which
makes sense out of all of this.
There's been suggested a number
of different occasions for the
psalm.
I'm just gonna pick one and
tell you this is the one I think
it is.
It could be one of the other
ones, I admit, this is the one
that makes the most sense to me
of the occasion for the psalm,
and then we'll take a look at
how this helps answer a lot of
the different interpretive
questions.
So, put your finger in Psalm
109 and go to 1 Samuel 25.
Um David and Saul are in their
sort of heated conflict at this
point.
Um Saul, David has just spared
Saul's life, but Saul really
doesn't give up after that.
He's sort of still out to.
And Israel is, of course, split
between David followers and
Saul followers, and they're
going back and forth.
So let me just take Hugh
chapter 25.
Um we'll start in verse 2.
Now there was a man in man
whose business was in Carmel,
and the man was very rich, and
he had three thousand sheep and
a thousand goats, and it came
about that while he was sharing
his sheep in Carmel, now the
man's name was Nabal, and his
wife's name was Abigail, and the
woman was intelligent and
beautiful in appearance, but the
man was harsh and evil in his
dealings, and he was a Calebite.
That David heard in the
wilderness that Nabal was
sharing his sheep.
So David sent ten young men,
and David said to the young men,
Go up to Carmel, visit Nabal,
and greet him in my name, and
thus you shall say, Have a long
life, peace be to you, and peace
be to your house, and peace to
all that you have.
And now I have heard that you
have shearers, now your
shepherds have been with us, and
we have not insulted them, nor
have they missed anything all
anything all in any they missed
anything all the days they were
in Carmel.
Ask your young men, they will
tell you.
Therefore, my young men, let my
young men find favor in your
eyes, for we have come on a
festive day.
Please give whatever you find
at hand to your servants and to
your son David.
So David's soldiers are sort of
protecting the sheep, sheep,
the shepherds who are out there,
and shepherds were always sort
of in danger of all kinds of
different dangers, and by having
David, some of David's army men
there, he's been protecting the
shepherds.
They haven't taken anything,
they've been treating them well.
He comes up, he gives them a
blessing, and he asks them for
some food for a festive day,
because David's on the run and
he doesn't have any stores and
provisions.
When David's young men came,
they spoke to Nabal according to
all these words in David's
name, and when they wait and
then they waited.
But Nabal answered David's
servants and said, Who is David,
and who is the son of Jesse?
There are many servants today
who are breaking away from his
mas who eat who are each
breaking away from his master.
Shall I then take my bread and
water and my meat that I have
slaughtered for my shearers and
give it to men whose origin I do
not know?
Now, you have to understand,
this is about as David's sort of
notoriety was about as much as,
say, Monica Lewinsky during the
Clinton scandal.
Everyone knew who David was.
Everyone knew that David was
anointed king, and Saul was
king, and there was this riff
between him.
So this is a great insult.
It's like lots of people are
breaking away from their
masters.
Am I supposed to keep track of
all the riff-raff that's out
there?
So this is a a complete insult
against who David is.
And sort of as mean-spirited as
you could get.
So David's young men retraced
their way and went back, and
they came and told him according
to all these words.
And David said to his men, Each
of you gird on his sword.
So each man girded on his
sword, and David also girded on
his sword, and about four
hundred men went up behind
David, while two hundred stayed
with the baggage.
But one of the young men told
Abigail, Nabel's wife, saying,
Behold, David sent messengers
from the wilderness to greet our
master, and he scorned them.
Yet the men were very good to
us, and we were not insulted,
nor did we miss anything, as
long as we went about with them
while we were in the fields.
They were a wall to us both by
night and by day, all the time
we were with them tending sheep.
Now therefore, know and
consider what you should do, for
evil is plotted against our
master and against his
household, and he is such a
worthless man that no one can
speak to him.
By the way, the term Nabal
means worthless, so he was
actually named worthless.
It's absolutely I love names in
the Old Testament, worthless.
Then Abigail hurried and took
two hundred loaves of bread and
two jugs of wine and five sheep
already prepared, and five
measures of roasted grain, and a
hundred clusters of raisins,
and two hundred cakes of figs,
and loaded them on donkeys.
And she said to her young man,
Go on before me, behold, I am
coming after you.
But she did not tell her
husband Nabal.
And it came about that while
she was riding on her donkey and
coming down by the hidden part
of the mountain, that behold,
David and his men were coming
down toward her, so she met
them.
Now David had said, Surely, in
vain I have guarded all of that
that man has in this in the
wilderness, so that nothing was
missed of all that belong to
him, and he has returned for me
evil for good.
Remember that's from our psalm.
May God do so to the enemies of
David and more also, if by
morning I leave as much as one
male of any who belong to him.
While Abigail saw David, she
hurried and dismounted from her
donkey and fell on her face
before David, and bowed herself
to the ground, and she fell at
his feet and said, On me alone,
my lord, be the blame, and
please let your maidservant
speak to you and listen to the
words of your maidservant.
Please do not met my let my
lord pay attention to this
worthless man Nabal, for as his
name is, so he is.
Nabal is his name, and folly is
with him.
But I, your maidservant, did
not see the young men of my Lord
whom you sent.
Now, therefore, my lord, as the
Lord lives and as your soul
lives, since the Lord has
restrained you from shedding
blood and from avenging yourself
by your own hand, now then let
your enemies and those who seek
evil against my Lord be as
Nabal.
And now let this gift which
your maidservant has brought to
my Lord to be given to the young
men who accompany my Lord.
Please forgive the
transgression of your
maidservant, for the Lord will
certainly make for my Lord an
enduring house, because my Lord
is fighting all the battles of
the Lord, and evil shall not be
found in you all your days.
And should anyone rise up to
pursue you and seek your life,
then the life of my Lord shall
be bound in the bundle of the
living with the Lord with the
Lord your God, but the lives of
your enemies he will sling out
as from the hollow of a sling.
And it shall come about when
the Lord shall do for my Lord,
according to the all the good
that he has spoken concerning
you, and shall appoint you ruler
over Israel, that this will not
cause grief or a troubled heart
to my Lord, both by having shed
blood without cause, and by my
Lord having avenged himself.
When the Lord shall deal well
with my Lord, then remember your
maid servant.
Then David said to Abigail,
Blessed be the Lord God of
Israel, who sent you this day to
meet me, and blessed be your
discernment, and blessed be you
who have kept me this day from
bloodshed, and from avenging
myself by my own hand.
Nevertheless, as the Lord of
God is God of Israel lives, who
has restrained me from harming
you, unless you had come quickly
to meet me, surely there would
not have been left to Nabal
until the morning light as much
as one male.
So David received from her hand
what she had brought him, and
he said to her, Go up to your
house in peace.
See, I have listened to you and
granted your request.
Then Abigail came to Nabal, and
behold he was holding a feast
in his house, like the feast of
a king, and Nab's heart was
merry within him, for he was
very drunk.
So she did not tell him
anything at all until the
morning light.
But when it came about in the
morning when the wine had gone
out of Nabal that his wife told
him these things, his heart died
within him, so he became a
stone.
And about ten days later it
happened that the Lord struck
Nabal, and he died.
When David heard that Nabal was
dead, he said, Blessed be the
Lord who has pleaded the cause
of my reproach from the hand of
Nabal, and has kept back his
servant from evil.
The Lord also has returned the
evil doing of Nabal on his own
head, again, language from our
Psalm.
Then Nabal sent a proposal to
Abigail to take her as his wife.
And when the servants of David
came to Abigail at Carmel, they
spoke to her, saying, David has
sent us to you to take you as
his wife.
And she arose and bowed with a
face to the ground and said,
Behold, your maidservant is a
maid to wash the feet of my
lord's servants.
And then Abigail quickly arose
and rode on a donkey with her
five maidens who attended her,
and she followed the messengers
of David and became his wife.
Okay.
So I think this is the occasion
for the Psalm.
Turn back to Psalm 109.
Let's see how that sort of
plays out within the Psalm.
First of all, probably one of
the most important pieces is you
remember that verses six
through twenty were in the
singular, and the rest of the
psalm is in the plural.
This is, I think, not a
vengeance psalm.
So it's included among the
vengeance psalms for its
language.
But let me tell you how I put
it together.
Verses 1 through 5 is David
speaking.
And in verse 5 he says, Thus
they have repaid me evil for
good and hatred for my love,
saying, quote, and the entire
quote is 6 through 20.
These are Nabal's words against
David, which makes a lot better
understanding out of the Psalm.
This is a singular, it's what
Nabal says to David when he
deals with his servants harshly,
when he's mean-spirited.
The account in 1 Samuel is an
abbreviated account of what is
probably a long and vindictive
cursing that Nabal says that
probably includes much of this.
And if you read this, this is
the kind of thing that someone
who was against David would have
said.
In other words, um, let him be
completely wiped out because he
is a traitor to the true king,
Saul.
And if you read through that,
you'll get a sort of a spirit of
what Nabal was like.
Again, what it does is it,
first of all, it takes the worst
part of this psalm out of
David's mouth and puts it in
Nabal's mouth, and makes a lot
more sense out of the psalm that
way.
And the quote marks make a lot
more sense out of why five would
say, They've repaid me evil for
good and hatred for my love,
and then it gives the example
saying, again, Hebrew doesn't
really have a way of going
double quotes, and all that kind
of stuff just isn't there in
the text, and you have to
understand it one way or the
other.
Speaker 3: And that goes through
which verse 20 or 25?
Speaker 1: Um I'm sorry, let me
let me come back to there.
Uh it goes through 15,
actually.
It goes through 15.
The quote would go through 15.
Starting at 6.
Yeah, starting at 6 and going
through 15.
Let me go ahead and pass out a
handout to sort of help keep us
straight on what we're doing.
Yeah, it goes through 15, and
then in 16, again, I will tell
you, commentators flip back and
forth on how far the quote goes.
It at least goes through 15.
Some people take it through 19.
I actually take it 16 is
starting David again because he
did not remember to show
loving-kindness, because he
persecuted the afflicted and
needy man.
In other words, because Nabal
did these things, because he was
persecuting me, David, the
needy and afflicted man, and the
despondent in heart to put them
to death.
He also loved cursing, so
Nabal's curses came back upon
his own head.
He did not delight in blessing,
so blessing was far away from
Nabal.
He clothed himself with cursing
as with his garment, and it
entered into his body like water
and oil like his bones.
So what David is saying is the
man was full of curses, and
those curses came back upon his
own head.
The very thing that Nabal
wanted, let another man take
David's office, actually came
back upon him, and David took
his wife, and his office and all
of his goods.
So you can see this sort of um,
yeah, I don't know quite how to
put it, Christian karma, if you
will, that that that the you
know the very the very evil that
you're out there doing in life
somehow comes back upon your own
head to haunt you because we
live in a moral universe that
God has created, and God is the
one, and I don't I don't know
whether to say God has created
this universe as a moral
universe, and therefore
righteousness leads to life and
sin leads to death, or God
Himself has his very hand in the
universe making things happen
to those who trust him and to
those who don't trust him.
Either way you look at it, it
comes back to the same thing.
It comes back to if you're a
person of cursing and hatred,
then curses and hatred will come
back upon you because that's
the kind of a world we live in.
Okay, so let me just take a
step back because we've got
limited time and say, okay, so
how is this about Judas?
So it looks like in the New
Testament, David said, or Peter
says, David predicted Judas when
he wrote this psalm.
And let me tell you that there
are at least two different ways
that the term fulfilled is used
in the New Testament.
And one is predictive prophecy,
and the other is I think what's
going on in terms of um Peter's
mouth.
Peter is saying that this psalm
is fulfilled in Judas.
And fulfilled can mean there's
a principle in the Old Testament
which is fulfilled.
Fully shown in the New
Testament.
This is why Jesus can said to
have fulfilled a lot of things
in the Old Testament that were
not predictive prophecy.
Because when it says things
like, um, you know, the
righteous shall have these
things and these blessings,
well, who more fully fills the
ideal of righteousness than
Jesus?
So much of the Old Testament
can be applied to Jesus as a
fulfillment because it's general
principles about the righteous
and what's going to happen to
them, and Jesus is the only
really true righteous man that
that is shown to have happened.
So when you're in the New
Testament, some of it's
predictive prophecy and some of
it's not, and some of it looks
like it could be both.
I mean, it could be either one.
So, and I'm not trying to say
that all the terms fulfilled are
not predictive prophecy.
This, however, is not one.
So, what is the principle here?
The principle here is when
someone has been shown love and
kindness and in return has done
nothing but evil and cursings
and hatred, you can leave it to
God to fulfill vengeance.
So, who was shown incredible
love and kindness and devotion
as one of Jesus' disciples other
than Jesus?
I mean, who was shown perfect
love other than Judas by the one
only man who could really show
perfect love?
And what does he do?
He betrays him.
Betraying the Messiah has got
to be the most awful thing you
could do in terms of repaying
good for evil, and Jesus doesn't
take vengeance, the disciples
don't take vengeance, it happens
completely from God's hand.
And so what Peter is saying is
Judas completely fulfilled the
principles in this psalm, and
therefore it's appropriate for
another person to take his
office, because God has removed
him, now we're going to put
another person into his office,
just like it happened in this
psalm with David and Nabal.
So you see how there's this
principle at work in Psalm 109
that you can take away, and
Peter can apply it to Judas as
the pr the prime example, if you
will, the highest example, the
fullest fulfillment of this
principle.
Okay.
So a lot of the interpretive
questions end up getting
answered.
Now I want to just take a look
a minute at a couple of
applications that we can do with
this psalm.
Let me just sort of give you
the overall structure.
1 through 5 is David's
situation, the curses against
David, and then because he was
this way, therefore let this be
his reward.
In 16 through 18 and 19 and 20.
In verse 21, you'll notice
David commits his cause to God.
But thou, O God, the Lord, deal
kindly with me for thy name's
sake, because thy loving
kindness is good, deliver me.
And then you'll notice in 26
through 29, you see that David
asks for vindication.
In uh in 22 through 25, he
describes his weakness.
He's on the run, he's got
accusers hearing him, and he
just feels awful.
26, he asks for vindication.
Especially notice verse 27, and
let them know that this is thy
hand.
Thou, Lord, hast done it.
In other words, I want everyone
to see, I I didn't do it, I
didn't have anything to do with
the Lord is the one who takes
vengeance.
He's the one.
And then in uh verse uh verse
30 and 31, he thanks the Lord
and puts his confidence in the
Lord.
If you will, it gives us an old
testament an old testament
picture of what it would look
like to turn the other cheek, to
not answer, um, to not have to
speak and justify ourselves, to
let vengeance be in the Lord's
hands, to uh to sort of
completely completely trust.
Now, I don't know about you,
but this psalm helps me when I
am angry at someone.
So, and there's always
situations where there's
tensions somewhere, and I'm just
thinking bad thoughts about
someone else because office
politics, you know, something's
gone on.
Office politics is the is the
clear one where you just you
kind of want to get out the
swords and get 20 men behind you
and go you know, and go take
your revenge on someone.
But there's a lot of situations
where someone has done you
wrong.
And in uh in 1 Peter 3.16, um,
Peter says, you know, keep a
good conscience so that the
thing in which you're slandered,
you know, they'll see, they'll
see your good works, they'll see
your kindness.
And then Peter also in that
passage talks about uh, for this
is grace, that if when you're
dealt with harshly you show
kindness.
It's an opportunity for us to
show forth what the Lord showed
when he was dealt with unkindly,
he showed grace in return.
And where else are people going
to see grace?
I mean, quite honestly, when
people are mean to you is one of
the only opportunities you can
show grace.
And so if you view it that way,
it's just a little bit
different.
God has put me in this
situation so that somebody could
be mean to me and I could show
grace in return because I can
show them what Christ's love is
like.
I can show them what.
And that's the principle here
with David, is David learned
that lesson.
He just learned it with Saul,
he just spared Saul's life, and
he comes down, and here's
another situation, and he's got
400 men behind him with swords,
and the Lord sends Abigail out
to teach him once more that
that's not the right way, David.
You just go home, calm down,
and I'll take care of it.
And that's a hard thing to
learn because we're so quick to
justify our rights.
Whether it's office politics,
or whether it's our spouse, or
whether it's, you know, it does
it doesn't matter.
It can even be people you care
about, and yet you're so quick
to try to justify things.
Um, one more thing, and that
is, there's another way to look
at this psalm, and that is in
verses 22 through 25, for I'm
afflicted and needy, and my
heart is wounded within me.
I'm passing like a shadow when
it lengthens, I'm shaken off
like the locust, my knees are
weak from fasting, and my flesh
has grown lean without fatness.
I have become a reproach to
them.
When they see me, they wag
their head.
This is what people feel like
when they've got an enemy who's
against them.
Have you ever had the situation
where you know someone is angry
at you and you just your pit of
your stomach tightens up, or
your shoulders, you get a neck
ache.
You know, it just affects you
physically because you know just
it's just we hate it when
someone does not like what we've
done and is angry with us and
is upset with us.
And a grace is what relieves
that on other people.
So this is what people are like
when we take vengeance upon
them.
So that vengeance cycle is what
ends up causing so much hurt
and pain in relationships.
So there's another way to take
this, and that is um my one of
my favorite Stephen Crane poems,
uh, one man was afraid he was
going to find an assassin,
another that he was going to
find a victim.
One was wiser than the other.
So I think uh the wise man is
afraid he's going to find a
victim and afraid he's going to
be the one causing and
inflicting this kind of pain.
And he's constantly on the
guard of his own heart saying,
Okay, Lord, you know, I'm
getting angry at that person.
What can I do to show grace and
to not show vengeance?
Because this is what vengeance
makes people feel like.
And I I've found that in a
number of situations.
It's often good to think about,
okay, what is the other person
going through?
I don't know what they're going
through.
Maybe their marriage is
breaking up, and that's why
they're so angry and testy.
Maybe their kids are rebellious
and horrible.
Maybe they hate their jobs and
they hate their life, and that's
why they're always sour and
surly.
And what can I do to speak into
that situation?
So sometimes we're just not
empathetic enough in envisioning
what other people's lives must
be like, and what they really
need to hear is uh a reflection
of God's love and God's care and
God's concern, because that's
the only thing that's going to
take them through whatever is
causing them to be such a sour
puss and such a mean-spirited
person.
So that's a sort of another
application.
Um just another sort of
interesting little piece.
Um if you look at verse 6,
appoint a wicked man over him
and let an accuser stand at his
right hand.
This is sort of Nabel's opening
vindictive, if you will, and
he's talking about let an
accuser, the word accuser is
actually Satan, because Satan
means accuser, so it's it's
basically let Satan stand at his
right hand, or let an accuser
stand at his right hand.
I think it means accuser, but I
just want you to know what kind
of an accuser that sort of
means.
If you go to verse 31, he's
talking about the Lord, for the
Lord stands at the right hand of
the needy to save him from
those who judge his soul.
It's the difference of having
God standing at your right hand
or having Satan stand at your
right hand.
I've often said that the uh the
Holy Spirit convicts us to
drive us back toward God.
Satan convicts us to drive us
away from God.
And that's sort of the
difference between the two
approaches.
If you're just there as an
accuser, you're saying things
like, yeah, until you get your
act together, you can't go to
the Lord.
You can't be with God.
You better get your act
together before I'm going to
accept you, before you're
acceptable within the family of
God, within the kingdom, within
anything else.
As opposed to you're acceptable
the way you are, I love you so
much, I want you the best for
you, and I'm trying to help you
get to the best.
And again, that's the same
difference in attitudes that we
can have within our marriages,
and really within any
relationship, is the other
person's sin is an opportunity
either for helping them to draw
closer to God or from standing
there as an accuser and driving
them away from God.
So it's uh another little
piece.
Okay, we've we've been through
a lot, but and it's getting
late.
I just want to see if there's
any questions or anything or
observations.
Yeah.
Speaker 3: Just a comment.
Um, in the in the uh 1 Samuel,
David was determined to get
vengeance.
And uh, you know, he didn't
exactly respond in a cool, calm,
loving, graceful manner.
But he was uh uh the Lord used
uh Abigail.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And uh I mean it'd be
nice if that would happen in
our life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would.
And and s and sometimes you may
not be able to be the person
like Jesus who takes it all.
Sometimes you're just the third
party who's the Abigail there,
and you can just sort of get in
someone's way and say, hold it,
before you go do that, you know,
let's just think about what God
would have you do, and let's
take a look at something like
this.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is there would you
say there's a difference between
an accuser and an oppressor?
Speaker 1: Um, I wasn't making a
distinction.
Do you think there is one?
Speaker 2: Uh no, I guess I'm
asking that question because uh
one could almost take this
message and say, you know,
anyone who is oppressing or um
violating some manner, you know,
we should just pray for and
respond in this capacity.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: Um I guess that's
what I'm asking.
Do you make a difference
between that?
Speaker 1: No, I I I don't.
I think I think you can do the
same thing for somebody who's
oppressing you, somebody who's
persecuting you, someone who
just doesn't like Christians,
somebody who may be giving you a
hard time for all the right
reasons even, you can still take
this approach.
Because what because what this
says is when you feel hurt, how
do you respond?
Do you give that over to the
Lord?
Do you trust the Lord?
Do you show kindness in
response?
It really is almost any time
you're hurt.
It doesn't have to be an
accuser.
Yeah.
Speaker 2: So would you say that
David and his responses, I mean
he he was a warrior.
Yeah.
What were some of his responses
and the manner in which he
became king?
Legitimate, you know?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Um it's certainly true, it's
certainly true.
The biblical account doesn't
have David overthrowing Saul.
And I think that's the biggest,
that's the biggest thing he got
right.
He was tempted to, certainly.
I think in the cave was
probably his biggest temptation.
Because it was means,
opportunity, wise counsel
telling him, do it, do it, do
it, do it.
You know, everything that we
would go through for decision
making, he would say, Yeah, stab
that guy, all my troubles will
be over, and he doesn't.
So but then he turns right
around and he goes, wants to
kill Nabel.
So you know, so I I think it I
think it's hard.
It's certainly a hard road.
And certainly Jesus would have
wanted to justify himself uh
over and over again and doesn't.
And you you know you see you
see sort of the perfect uh the
perfect response in Jesus.
Which is why when I'm upset and
angry, I go and I read
Proverbs, nine times out of
nine, the answer I get is bite
your tongue.
Just be quiet.
Let it go.
You don't you don't have to,
God knows.
That's the the biggest thing
that helps me, God knows.
If I feel like it's all been
wrong and it's completely
unjustified and everything else,
if it's true, God knows.
And if it's not true, I really
should bite my tongue.
You know, if it's just my own
self-justification.
So either way, the correct
answer is bite your tongue and
have a good laugh between you
and God about how ironic it is.
The very thing they're wailing
on you for is they're twice as
guilty of themselves.
You know.
Other questions or comments?
Okay, good.
Let me pray.
God, we confess to you that um
we're very much like David at
the beginning of the story, uh,
wanting to marshal the 400
soldiers and go kill those who
um who cause us uh pain and
suffering.
But we know that you're in
charge of all of life.
So we pray that the next time
that we are uh confronted by
someone who is angry with us or
wishes us ill, you would bring
this to mind and allow us to see
it as an opportunity to show
your grace and your love and
your concern, knowing that you
are a God who's woven the very
fabric of the universe with your
moral structure and will stand
at our right hand and vindicate
us.
We thank you for these things
in Jesus' name.
Amen.