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Welcome back to the Wednesday in the Word podcast. I'm
Krisan Marotta, and this is my
podcast about what the Bible
means and how we know.
Today is the 11th talk in our
series on the Gospel of John and
the second of two podcasts on
John chapter 4.
I'm so glad you joined us
today.
Last week we began looking at
John chapter 4, which includes
the conversation Jesus had with
the woman at the well and the
healing of the nobleman's son.
Since this is a big picture
study, rather than walking
through the chapter, I have been
going through it in sections,
pulling out the three major
themes that I see.
This podcast will make more
sense if you listen to the
previous podcast first, and if
you're not familiar with the
stories in chapter four, you
might want to pause and read
through the chapter before
listening further.
I see three themes in the
stories in this chapter.
We looked at the first theme in
the last podcast and we'll
cover the second two themes
today.
To focus on each theme, I will
be skipping through verses as I
read, which is another reason
you might want to read through
the passage on your own first.
But if you listen to last
week's podcast and this podcast,
we will be covering all the
verses.
Let me briefly remind you what
we talked about in the last
podcast.
Jesus is traveling through
Samaria on his way back to
Galilee from Jerusalem.
The Jews and the Samaritans did
not get along.
There were religious issues
between them and racial issues
between them and a history of
bad blood.
Jesus stops at Jacob's well
around noon.
He waits there while his
disciples go into the village to
buy food.
While he's waiting, a Samaritan
woman comes to draw water from
the well.
Jesus starts a conversation
with her and asks her for a
drink of water from the well.
This is quite a striking thing
to do.
There are at least three good
reasons why a Jewish rabbi might
not want to speak to a woman in
this situation.
First, she is a Samaritan,
second, she is a woman, and
third, as Jesus knows, she is an
immoral woman.
Any one of those reasons are
enough to persuade any self
respecting rabbi to keep his
distance, and she's got all
three strikes.
She remarks on this fact.
She's amazed that Jesus speaks
to her and asks her for a drink.
Jews were not allowed to share
eating utensils with Samaritans,
particularly cups and glasses,
because Samaritans were
considered unclean, and she is
amazed that he would take a
drink from any cup she handed to
him.
The first theme we talked about
last week involves testimony
and belief, and it should be a
familiar theme if you've been
listening to this series.
This is a story about how a
village of Samaritans come to
believe that Jesus is the
Messiah, and they follow the
pattern we've been seeing.
There's a miracle, there is
testimony concerning the
miracle, and then there is
belief that Jesus is the Messiah
because of that miracle and
testimony.
As we talked about last week,
the extra twist in this story is
that the believers are the
Samaritans whom the Jews hated
and considered unclean.
John contrasts the relatively
quick and easy belief found
among the Samaritans with the
more reluctant belief of the
Jewish noble at the end of the
chapter.
The nobleman comes to Jesus
seeking earthly help for earthly
troubles.
He only comes to believe Jesus
is the Messiah after Jesus gives
him a sign.
Now let's look at the second
theme in the story.
We're going to pick up the
story in verse nineteen.
Jesus has already spoken to the
woman about how he can provide
living water, and whoever drinks
this living water will not be
thirsty again, and Jesus has
made clear to her that he has
supernatural knowledge about her
life, particularly the fact
that she has had five husbands.
And she responds and will pick
up in four nineteen through
twenty six.
The woman said to him, Sir, I
perceive that you are a prophet.
Our fathers worshiped on this
mountain, but you say that in
Jerusalem is the place where
people ought to worship.
Jesus said to her, Woman,
believe me, the hour is coming,
when neither on this mountain
nor in Jerusalem will you
worship the Father.
You worship what you do not
know, we worship what we know,
for salvation is from the Jews.
But the hour is coming and is
now here, when the true
worshipers will worship the
Father in spirit and truth, for
the Father is seeking such
people to worship him.
God is spirit, and those who
worship him must worship in
spirit and truth.
The woman said to him, I know
that the Messiah is coming, he
who is called Christ.
When he comes he will tell us
all things.
Jesus said to her, I who speak
to you am He.
Jesus has just pointed out the
fact that he knows all about her
extra husbands, and she brings
up these religious differences
between the Jews and the
Samaritans, and there are very
clear differences between them.
Now why would she do that?
Well I always thought that she
was trying to change the
subject.
Maybe Jesus was getting a
little too personal with his
conversation about her
lifestyle, so she's trying a
diversion tactic.
A theological debate might
distract him from this
uncomfortable topic of her many
husbands.
That's possible, but the more I
studied this, I don't think
that's giving her enough credit.
As I started digging into what
the Samaritans believe, I
realized the question she asks
is quite reasonable given the
situation.
Jesus has just done something
astounding.
He knows these personal things
about her that he has no reason
to know.
Only God could have told him
such detail.
So she realizes he's a prophet,
but from her perspective
there's a problem.
He's a Jew, and she's a
Samaritan.
Why should she listen to a
Jewish prophet?
He's the wrong religion, from
her perspective.
Prophets should come from the
Samaritans.
And I think that's the issue
she's raising.
She's saying, look, you're a
Jew.
We have some pretty big
significant religious
differences.
You say that we have to worship
in Jerusalem.
What do you have to say about
that?
Why should I as a Samaritan
listen to you, a Jewish prophet?
I'm inclined to think her
question is serious and that
she's pointing out to him that
he worships in the wrong place,
so why should she listen to him?
He may know about her personal
life, but from her perspective,
his theology is off.
Jesus takes her question
seriously and he makes two
points, and I think it's
important to see both of them.
His first point deals with
their theological differences,
and he acknowledges there are
theological and religious
differences between them, and he
is very clear to say the Jews
have it right and you Samaritans
have it wrong.
For example, the Samaritans
rejected the temple at
Jerusalem, and they set up their
own temple in Samaria.
Jesus believed the Jerusalem
temple is the temple God
established.
The Samaritans only accepted
the first five books of the Old
Testament.
They rejected prophets like
Isaiah and Jeremiah, but Jesus
clearly believed that the
prophets like Isaiah and
Jeremiah were from God, and that
they testified to the Messiah,
they were messengers from God
that needed to be heard, and she
is wrong to ignore those parts
of the scriptures.
The Samaritans didn't accept
the idea that the royal line
belonged to David.
They represented a split that
goes all the way back to the
split between the southern and
northern kingdoms after Solomon,
which is roughly a millennia
back in their history.
But the fact is the Messiah,
Jesus, who is standing right
there in front of her, is from
the line of David.
So Jesus says in effect, you
Samaritans worship the Father,
but you don't understand him
properly because you've cut
yourself off from the means that
he has made himself known.
We Jews do know him.
We understand the God we're
worshiping because salvation is
from the Jews.
God has revealed himself
through the Jewish scriptures
and the Jewish prophets.
God revealed the coming Messiah
through the Jews, God set up
the true temple in Jerusalem,
and the Jewish prophets have
spoken from God.
Now not that all Jews
necessarily understood or
believed all that they had been
told, but compared to the
Samaritans, the Jews had a
better chance of getting their
theology right.
That's the first issue.
Jesus says the Jews have some
things right that the Samaritans
have wrong.
But there's a second point he
makes.
He confronts her with a more
fundamental issue.
In the end, the true worship of
God is not about which temple
you worship in.
The Jews are in the right
temple, which is in Jerusalem,
and the Samaritans are in the
wrong temple, but in the end
that is not going to matter.
Now I think Jesus is making a
very important and fundamental
point here, and it's one that we
in the modern church tend to
lose sight of sometimes.
If you stop and think about it,
there's always been something
problematic about the religious
rituals of the Old Testament.
Even though God gave these
rituals, the Mosaic covenant,
the laws, there's a little bit
of tension in their practices.
For example, you can go to the
temple and you can make your
sacrifice, and that is being
obedient, that was what was
commanded, but the sacrifice
doesn't solve the problem of sin
and guilt and God's wrath.
You have to go back the next
year and make another sacrifice,
and you have to keep on making
sacrifices.
These rituals were a kind of
picture, a lesson the Jews were
supposed to learn.
Also they were to worship at
this particular temple in
Jerusalem, but the fact is God
doesn't dwell only in that
temple in that particular
location.
The temple was just a kind of
picture.
We know God is everywhere.
Yes, worshiping God at the
temple is being obedient, it's
what God said to do, but it's
only a picture of a bigger
reality.
The Psalms and the prophets
made it clear that doing the
rituals was not the most
important part.
The heart or the attitude, the
fundamental beliefs of the
person doing the ritual, that's
what really matters.
The rituals were a way to
express their inner commitment
to and belief in God.
The rituals themselves
contained no magic.
They were meant to express a
reality about the person's
spiritual state.
But of course we know
experience proves when you have
an external ritual to do, it's
easy for the ritual to become
the point and the heart of the
person involved to become
irrelevant.
It's easy to start going
through the motions of the
ritual without caring about the
God behind them at all.
And that's the tension.
Since God is concerned with the
heart, why not just skip the
rituals and get right to the
heart of it?
Why not just work on being the
sort of person that God wants me
to be and forget about all
these rituals that picture that
kind of person?
Well, I understand Jesus to be
saying that time has come.
It is time to recognize the
temporary provisional nature of
things like these rituals
performed at a particular temple
in a particular place on a
particular day, and instead to
emphasize the inner reality.
Before, if you asked someone,
did you worship God?
a person would answer, yes, I
went to the temple and I offered
my dove or whatever it was.
Now if you ask, did you worship
God?
A person could answer, yes, in
my spirit, in my inner heart, I
bowed my knee to God and his
truth.
And Jesus, I think, is saying,
that's really what it's all
about.
The time is coming and is now
to put the emphasis where it
belongs, which is how do you
stand before God?
We are not to symbolically act
out a ritual of believing in God
without belief, we are to
actually believe in him.
And this makes sense.
God is not confined to a
particular temple.
God is spirit, and it makes
sense that we would worship him
wherever we are.
The only worshipers God is
really truly interested in is
those who worship him from the
inside where it counts.
Notice four twenty three again,
but the hour is coming and is
now here when the true
worshipers will worship the
Father in spirit and truth, for
the Father is seeking such
people to worship him.
Now this phrase worship in
spirit and truth could be
understood several ways.
You'll find a lot of discussion
about exactly what it means.
I'm leaning in one direction.
I'll tell you what that is, but
I might change my mind.
At this point, I think to
worship in spirit and in truth
is to worship God in my spirit
in response to truth.
It's my acceptance of and
bowing to the truth of God.
And I really like that idea
because there is so much
emphasis in the Bible on this
idea that we are called to
respond to truth.
One of the fundamental problems
we human beings have is we lie
to ourselves.
We discount and ignore the
truths that we don't want to
deal with, like the fact that
we're sinners and God could
justly condemn us.
But we are called to respond to
truth and then submit to it,
and that's worship, that bowing
of our knee, humbling ourselves
before God and saying, You are
right, I am wrong, save me.
That's what God is looking for.
Now I think it's important that
Jesus acknowledged that the
Samaritans were wrong.
He doesn't say it doesn't
matter what you believe, it
doesn't matter how you worship.
That's not what he's saying.
I'm sure many Samaritans by
rejecting the temple in
Jerusalem were actually
expressing a rebellion against
truth and a hostility to God.
It's very easy for all of us to
take comfort in performing
empty rituals that don't reflect
any inward reality.
There were probably other
Samaritans who were sincerely
worshiping God even though they
got it wrong.
What Jesus is saying is this
disagreement about which is the
true temple, this is about to
become irrelevant.
What's really important is are
you a person who responds to
truth?
Are you a person who bows your
knee to God and says, Yes, you
are God?
I think Jesus is making it
clear that true religion
involves who we are and what we
believe inside.
It's not what motions we go
through on the outside.
True religion involves
embracing the truth and
worshiping God because of it.
In a real sense, the religious
differences between the Jews and
the Samaritans are going to be
swallowed up by this more
important distinction.
But we still want to be people
who seek the truth and believe
the truth.
Now we could spend a whole lot
of time talking about that, and
in a detailed study we probably
would spend a lot more time
thinking that through.
For now I just want to point
out that there are two points
Jesus makes.
Truth still matters.
Some theology is right and some
theology is wrong, and it's
important that we respond to the
truth when we're taught it.
But we want to give an
appropriate weight to what Jesus
is saying here.
In my humble, good for nothing
opinion, many of the traditions
that have grown up in
Christianity and the way we
think about what God wants from
us now show that we haven't
really taken these words to
heart.
We embrace this idea that God
has stopped caring whether we
worship him in this temple or
that temple, but then we easily
convince ourselves that he cares
really deeply whether we're
dunked or sprinkled.
Or we convince ourselves that
he is quite particular about the
details of how we take
communion and how often we take
it, and which songs we sing and
what liturgy we say, and we can
become quite rigid about having
a particular set of religious
practices.
It seems to me as we debate
these topics, and they're good
topics to debate, we need to
give weight to what Jesus is
getting at here.
Fundamentally, religious
distinctions have to be subsumed
under the issue of who is doing
them, the issue of the inner
person.
Now I am not saying that it
doesn't matter what we do or how
we worship God.
Just to be ridiculous, I can't
decide that my religious
practice will be sacrificing
children on an altar in my
backyard.
Clearly, God would find that
abhorrent, and I am not free to
do something like that.
It is true that my religious
practices say something about
who I am inside and how
seriously I take God, and in
that sense, religious practices
matter a great deal.
But I think we need to take
Jesus' point here seriously, and
the primary issue is do I
really believe and trust God?
If I truly believe Him and
trust Him, then the way I live
my life should start reflecting
His values and the truth He's
revealed to me.
Now as I said, we could spend a
whole lot of time on that, we
barely scratched the surface,
but let's turn to the third
theme in this section, which
starts in verse thirty one.
The woman has gone back to town
to tell everyone what she has
just heard from this guy, Jesus,
and the disciples have arrived.
They had left to get food, but
now they're back, and Jesus and
his disciples are waiting for
the townspeople to arrive.
And we have this little
interlude which starts in three
hundred thirty one and goes to
thirty eight.
Meanwhile, the disciples were
urging him, Rabbi eat, but he
said to them, I have food to eat
that you do not know about.
So the disciples said to one
another, has anyone brought him
something to eat?
Jesus said to him, My food is
to do the will of him who sent
me and to accomplish his work.
Do you not say there are yet
four months then comes the
harvest?
Look, I tell you, lift up your
eyes and see that the fields are
white for harvest.
Already the one who reaps is
receiving wages and gathering
fruit for eternal life, so that
the sower and reaper may rejoice
together.
For here the saying holds true,
one sows and another reaps.
I sent you to reap that for
which you did not labor.
Others have labored and you
have entered into their labor.
Okay, what's going on here?
I think this is another theme
that's going to run through the
Gospel of John.
It is related to this theme of
testimony and belief.
You and I believe today because
of the testimony of the
apostles, the original twelve
disciples who were with Jesus,
who were taught by him and then
ultimately represented him to
the world.
I think what's going on here is
Jesus is preparing the twelve
to become his representatives.
He knows he's eventually going
to leave and his apostles are
going to take over and represent
him to the rest of the world.
When John is writing, this has
been true for decades.
Jesus has been gone and the
church is relying on the
testimony of the apostles.
Jesus takes this little
teachable moment to say
something to these disciples
whom he will later send out to
be his apostles.
He wants them to look at the
world the way he looks at the
world.
And we're going to see more of
this theme.
It's going to culminate in the
upper room discourse.
We get just a little glimpse of
it here.
While we're waiting for the
woman and the townspeople to
come back, Jesus is preparing
them to join him in this
ministry and ultimately to
replace him.
What does Jesus mean when he
says his food is doing his
father's will?
Well, let's think this through.
When we get hungry, We long for
food to satisfy our hunger.
Food is very important to us.
We need food to sustain us.
We look forward to eating.
We make time for it in our
lives.
We feel satisfied and content
after a good meal.
The disciples come back and say
it's lunchtime, don't you want
to eat?
And the answer is, Of course
I'm going to eat, but I have a
different hunger that is even
stronger, and it is satisfied in
a different way.
The desire that drives me is
for me to do God's will.
God has sent me to do
something.
He's given me a task to do, and
I have this great desire that
it be done.
So my food, the thing that I
long for, the thing that
motivates me, the thing that
keeps me going, the desire I
most want to satisfy is to do
that which God sent me to do.
That satisfies me in the same
way eating a good meal satisfies
my physical hunger.
Ultimately, doing God's will is
what I want.
It's what I came here to do,
it's my desire.
Now remember the disciples were
surprised that Jesus was
talking to a Samaritan woman at
all.
In part I think he's speaking
to that kind of surprise.
There's a little bit of flavor
of why are you surprised that I
spoke to a Samaritan woman?
Preaching to the lost is what I
came to do.
Speaking to people like her is
my calling, and ultimately, my
disciples, it's going to be your
calling.
And he's telling them it gives
him great satisfaction to do
this, and he wants the same for
them.
Then he switches to this
imagery of harvesting, and I
believe he's referring to a
saying they have, which is
basically you gotta wait four
months for the harvest.
He's talking about the reality
of life and the need for
patience.
You plant your seeds and you
have to wait four months before
you can reap the harvest.
You don't get to go out the
next morning and harvest your
barley or your corn or whatever
it is.
If you're hungry for barley or
corn or wheat, you have to plan
ahead.
You have to sow your seeds,
then you have to wait patiently
for the harvest.
And after you harvest, you have
to grind it in the flour, and
then you have to make it into
bread, and then finally you can
eat it.
But when you're sowing the
seeds of the gospel, sometimes
you can sow and reap
immediately.
You can sow your seeds of the
gospel and enjoy the fruit right
away.
And he's talking about the
situation in the Samaritan town.
This woman has believed him.
She's telling others about him.
Many people from this village
are about to come listen to him
and beg him to stay and be
taught by him.
They are like a field ready to
be harvested.
He knows they're ready to hear
his words, like a field that is
ripe and ready to be picked.
They just need someone to tell
them the truth about how to find
eternal life.
Now Jesus qualifies the picture
a bit.
He says the field is ripe now
because others sowed first.
You twelve sometimes are going
to get to experience the
instantaneous gratification of
the harvest because someone
before you did the hard work of
sowing.
Those who sowed, they didn't
get that gratification.
You get the gratification
because you're the one who came
at the time when the harvest was
ready.
Now why would he say something
like this?
He doesn't explain it.
He just makes this comment and
then lets it go.
But what makes the most sense
to me is the sowers he's talking
about are all of those who have
contributed to the Samaritans'
understanding in this town,
their understanding of God and
their expectation that there is
a Messiah who's coming.
That would include Abraham,
Isaac, Jacob, Moses, all of the
people whose stories are told in
the first five books of the
Bible that the Samaritans read.
It would include their parents
and grandparents and great
grandparents.
It's true they ignored the
later Jewish prophets, but they
listened to Moses.
They know the story of Abraham
and Joseph and Jacob, they know
about the law.
They know Moses said there was
a prophet coming one day, and
they had this hope, this
expectation that the world needs
a savior and the Christ is
coming.
When Jesus says, I who speak to
you am He, the woman was
prepared.
She knows who he's talking
about.
She understands the claim that
he's making and what it means
that he is the Messiah.
The people in the town seem to
understand it too.
Jesus stays with them two days
and they listen and believe.
They were in a position to
understand and embrace the
gospel because they had listened
to others who came before the
day Jesus arrived.
Now it's true that ultimately
this is all a work of God and
that He prepares our hearts to
hear and understand, but the
point Jesus is making right now
is the disciples don't have to
work very hard at explaining
what this is all about because
the Samaritans were ready to
hear what they had to say.
God had prepared them to hear
and believe when Jesus and his
disciples came to town, and he
prepared them through the hard
work of others.
So what's Jesus saying to his
disciples here?
I'd paraphrase it something
like this.
You know how hunger drives you
to long for food?
I have a deeper hunger, a
hunger to do what God wants me
to do, which is calling people
to eternal life.
And I invite you, my disciples,
to share my hunger that God's
will be done.
Look around you.
These people are ready to hear
about the salvation that I am
bringing them.
The work of many years has gone
into preparing them for the
message that you can bring them
as my disciples.
Others prepared the ground.
You have the privilege of
seeing the results in the lives
of these people.
That's your call as my
messengers.
Now let me end all this by
talking about a couple of things
that strike me as significant.
First, Jesus is preparing the
apostles for their task.
In the end, you and I are part
of this grand and glorious
harvest because they brought it
in through their writings in the
Bible.
There's this long beautiful
plan of God's preparation and
teaching that brings us to the
point of being ready to believe
and embrace the gospel.
And God is weaving all of
history to bring about salvation
for people like you and me.
Second, this whole harvesting
picture he paints suggests that
those who had come before
prepared the Samaritans to
accept Jesus.
They had been taught enough
that they understood the problem
of sin, they understood that
God was sending a Savior to the
world, their prior teaching,
their cultural experience gave
them a foundation upon which
Jesus and the apostles could
harvest.
Well that raises a question for
me is could we say the same
today?
Are the fields white for
harvest today?
Is this a general truth or is
he talking about something
specific that was true at that
particular time?
And I think, if I'm
understanding what he's saying,
that he was talking about that
particular time, the historical
work that prepared the
Samaritans to understand him.
If that's the case, then it
seems to me that today the
fields are not ripe for harvest.
It seems to me that modern
culture has led us to a place
where people are less prepared
than ever to hear the gospel.
This immoral, we might call her
primitive Samaritan woman was
in a much better position to
hear Jesus than we are in our
culture, because our culture has
taken the issue of sin and
guilt off the table and put
other things in its place.
Of course, God can and does
break through any hard heart he
wants to and he saves lots of
us.
Our lack of cultural
preparation is not an obstacle
to God.
I don't mean that.
I'm just looking at around at
the world and saying what kind
of situation are we in?
As we proclaim the gospel to
our neighbors, it seems to me
that we should picture ourselves
as the people who are breaking
up the hard ground so that later
on someone can come along and
sow the seeds of the gospel and
someone else reap the results
even later.
I think, at least in my little
corner of the world, that we are
called upon to break ground,
and we should think about it
that way.
We're trying to create an
environment where something can
get planted, and it may take a
while before anything grows out
of it.
Now why do I say that?
Well it seems to me that for
many people today the gospel
answers a question that they
aren't asking.
We have so trivialized sin and
guilt that no one thinks they
need a savior anymore.
And our anything goes tolerate
every mentality culture, the
concept that I might actually be
wrong, I might actually be a
sinner is foreign to most
people.
We have so emphasized the
message that God loves you, that
no one seems to understand that
God may love you and you're
still facing his wrath.
Part of our job today is to
encourage them to start asking
the right questions.
They need to understand the
nature of the problem of sin so
that the gospel actually
resonates as good news when they
hear it.
If I'm right about this, then
the modern, sophisticated,
materially prosperous western is
much worse off than the
Samaritans of this town because
they were ready to hear about
Jesus, and by and large, we're
not.
Finally, when Jesus says his
food is doing his father's will,
we might want to stop and ask
ourselves, what am I hungry for?
We were told from the beginning
that mankind does not live by
bread alone, but everything that
proceeds from the mouth of God.
Well you and I are not
apostles, we're not called to
represent Jesus in the same way
they were called to represent
Jesus, but we are disciples of
Christ.
As disciples of Jesus, we
should hunger for the will of
God to happen.
Part of growing and maturing as
a believer, I think, is
learning to want what God wants.
It's easy for us to want what
we want.
I already know how to do that.
I've known how to do that from
a very early age.
I know how to want what seems
good to me, but we're trying to
learn to want what God wants
because we recognize that what
God wants is the real deal.
What God wants is the thing to
want because nothing else will
ultimately satisfy us.
Everything else in this
physical universe is going to
die and decay and turn to dust,
but God is the real thing.
He is the one who can bring us
eternal life and create a world
that is not spoiled by sin and
death.
Now each of us has our unique
role to play in the kingdom of
God.
I can't say what specifically
you're called to do in this
life, but I do know the story of
salvation and redemption, the
story of how God sent His Son
into the world to rescue us from
our guilt and bring us into
righteousness and life.
And I know that understanding
and embracing that story, that
gospel, knowing that it's true,
is the most important thing we
can ever do in this life.
The gospel ought to matter to
us.
It's very easy to get
distracted by the cares of this
world and forget how important
it is to come to terms with the
gospel.
So it's a challenge.
What Jesus says here is not
just a challenge to his
disciples, but a challenge to
us.
What are we hungry for?
What are we all about in this
life?
What do we really want God to
do for us?
Are we looking to him for
earthly blessings to solve
earthly problems tomorrow?
Or do we want him to forgive us
and grant us eternal life in
his kingdom?
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